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287 g — open forum

Go for it…287 g, SAVE, Basic Pilot Program, illegal immigration in general and who is responsible for solving the problem.

To get it started, here is an op-ed from the Heritage Foundation in support of 287 g:

Section 287(g) Is the Right Answer for State and Local Immigration Enforcement
James Jay Carafano, Ph.D

State and local law enforcement have an important role to play in federal immigration investigations. Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provides the legal authority for state and local enforcement to investigate, detain, and arrest aliens on civil and crimi­nal grounds. Any comprehensive border and immigration security legislation by Congress should include provisions for strengthen­ing and expanding programs authorized under §287(g).

Comprehensive Reform Needed. Any effective solution for reducing illegal border crossings and the unlawful population in the United States must address all three aspects of the problem: internal enforcement of immigration laws, international cooperation, and border security. Internal enforce­ment and international cooperation are essential to reducing and deterring the flood of illegal entrants into the United States, making the challenge of securing America’s borders affordable and achiev­able. Nothing less than a comprehensive reform will do.

This reform must include restoring the integrity of U.S. immigration laws. The federal enforcement agencies lack the capacity to pursue aggressively all immigration violations that represent serious crim­inal and national security threats, much less effec­tively deter any who wish to defy U.S. immigration laws. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not even have enough resources to deport criminal aliens released from prisons. Fur­thermore, effective domestic counterterrorism operations and interstate criminal investigations require close cooperation of fed­eral, state, and local investigators.

State and local governments need to provide more support, but it must be balanced with equally compelling priorities. Any participation should:

Respect federalism,

Safeguard the liberties and rights of U.S. persons,

Not impose huge unfunded mandates on state and local governments,

Contribute to reducing the unlawfully present population in the United States and deter illegal entry,

Help to combat transnational threats and vio­lent and organized criminal offenders, and

Strengthen community policing, facilitating greater cooperation between law enforcement and communities.

At the very least, in the normal course of crimi­nal investigations, state and local law enforcement should neither ignore immigration law nor hesitate to cooperate with federal immigration officials. In the case of counterterrorism and violent and orga­nized crime, more concerted effort is needed.

The Right Answer. A program that can meet all of these essential requirements already exists. Sec­tion 287(g) of the INA allows the DHS and state and local governments to enter into assistance compacts. Both sides must agree on the scope and intent of the program before it is implemented, which gives states and local communities the flexi­bility to shape the programs to meet their needs. State and local law officers governed by a §287(g) agreement must receive adequate training and operate under the direction of federal authorities. In return, they receive full federal authority to enforce immigration law, thereby shifting liability to the federal government and providing the offic­ers with additional immunity when enforcing fed­eral laws.

A §287(g) pilot program with the State of Flor­ida could serve as a national model. Florida spe­cifically limits its officers’ civil immigration enforcement to situations in which they are part of a security or counterterrorism operation that is supervised by Immigration and Customs Enforce­ment (ICE) officers. The Florida program outlines the criteria for selecting the participating officers, including U.S. citizenship, three years of law enforcement experience, and at least an associate’s degree. Selected officers receive intensive training and must pass a final competency exam. The pro­gram also establishes ways for people to file griev­ances against the program and its officers. The Florida initiative demonstrates how to craft a pro­gram that meets federal as well as state and local needs.

Building a National Program. As part of a com­prehensive border and immigration reform pack­age, Congress should build on the §287(g) pilot program by requiring the DHS to:

Appoint a national spokesperson (a respected and prominent former state or local govern­ment or law enforcement official) to promote the program;

Draft a strategy for implementing §287(g) nationwide;

Create a national center for lessons learned and best practices; and

Report to Congress each year on the progress of the program.

Congress should also:

Allow states and cities to use homeland secu­rity grants to pay for their participation, includ­ing overtime costs for state and local law enforcement agents assisting in federal immi­gration enforcement investigations;

Provide ICE with sufficient funds to train and supervise up to 5,000 state and local law enforcement officers nationwide over the next two years; and

Require that any participating state or local government must have a stakeholder engage­ment plan that briefs local communities on the scope and intent of the program and solicits community engagement and involvement in community policing.

Conclusion. Section 287(g) provides protection to states and their law officers while requiring that well-trained officers conduct immigration investiga­tions. It also allows states and local governments to tailor programs to meet their unique circumstances and requirements. Any comprehensive border and immigration security legislation should strengthen and expand programs authorized under §287(g).

James Jay Carafano, Ph.D., is Senior Research Fellow for National Security and Homeland Security in the Douglas and Sarah Allison Center for Foreign Pol­icy Studies, a division of the Kathryn and Shelby Cullom Davis Institute for International Studies at The Heritage Foundation. Melanie Youell contributed writ­ing and research to this article.

11 Responses to “287 g — open forum”

  1. elvis says:

    Vee are from zee government und vee are here to help. Illegal immigration is a problem that did not occur overnight. The feds stood idly by and did nothing. What assurances do we have that the people that were once enablers are now the answer? Still have mixed emotions about this but thanks for the info and the post. Will study further.

    “E”

  2. GA Patriot says:

    Regardless of the cost to operate and institute 287(g), there will be a net gain. It will prevent repeat non-licensed drivers from causing mayhem on our road, prevent another day laborer or chicken plucker or landscaper from depressing the salaries of taxpayers who used to hold those jobs, prevent our wage money from being shipped to some third world Latin American country, prevent another anchor baby and the healthcare and schooling costs associated with each and every one, possibly cause the rest of the family to self-deport (YES!!), prevent Section 8 housing allowance, food stamps, WIC payments, decreased property values and destruction of neighborhoods, diminish those gangs that the Sheriff of Cherokee is so busy chasing, lessen an identity fraud case, drug runners, the pesky problem of culture rituals such as 12 year olds considered age of consent, and diminish the cost of arresting the same people over and over again.

    It will also make me happy to have every Sheriff in GA participate in this program. Even if it a net loss it is well worth the money. Maybe we can just send less aid to Pakistan next year to buy Chinese weapons to use to kill our military in Iraq. Just a thought.

  3. JohnKonop says:

    GA Patriot

    I agree with the concept if the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT picks them up and does not release them. Otherwise we are just shifting cost.

  4. GaPatriot says:

    I don’t care how long the feds wait before they pick them up. It is money well spent to keep them locked up. The corrupt politicians and greedy corporate traitors want nothing done and they have perpetrated this assault on us. Cobb averages 400 per month now, and school enrollment dropped significantly. Not a coincidence.

    Coming to a school, probably near you, unless EVERY tool is implemented: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=67886

    And maybe if you have a real emergency and need a hospital there will be an ER without standing room only. The healthcare costs for Medicaid, automatically given to every pregnant illegal, are costing every Georgian, not just Cherokee. What the Sheriff does, or fails to do, affect us all. Some more than others – Billy Inman for example.

  5. JohnKonop says:

    GP

    You would be right if the FEDS did not let them go after they pick them up!

  6. bb says:

    John,

    I am having a real hard time following your adjusted position on illegal immigration.

    Previously in every single discussion, you always referred to welfare cost of $21,000 being far more than the cost to secure the border and enforce current laws.

    Now you basically sound like you have given up…”the feds will just release them anyway”.

    From a NYTimes story dated 5/1/07 — :Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials, facing intense political pressure to toughen enforcement, removed 221,664 illegal immigrants from the country over the last year, an increase of more than 37,000 — about 20 percent — over the year before, according to the agency’s tally.”

    I would be willing to bet the number has continued to increase since Bush doubled the border patrol.

    Why won’t you give credit where due? And when did you stop supporting local control and well trained law enforcement officials with the skills to identify, arrest and process illegal immigrants?

  7. JohnKonop says:

    It is an insult to anyone who knows about this issue to claim Bush is not playing games with the enforcement of immigration laws. Bush is playing politics and has thrown border guards in jail for doing their job.

  8. bb says:

    John,

    Don’t let facts spoil your hatred of the president. Is your back hurting from all the flip-flopping you’ve done this week on so many issues?

  9. JohnKonop says:

    Bart

    If you want to stay delusional and blind it is your choice!

  10. bb says:

    Where is the evidence John? Everybody knows you are full of it, and you don’t even do anything to dispel the impression when you reply by attacking those of us who debunk your BS.

    It is almost comical how twisted you have become trying to keep up with floating principles, unsubstantied accusastions and flip-flopping on issues.

    I refer back to #6 if you would like to carry on a thoughtful, intelligent discussion instead of the personal attacks.

    BTW, everybody who bet the under (15 posts – John attacks) wins…John didn’t even get to 10 before resorting to personal attacks instead of having a discussion of the issue…where are you JohnTrue?

  11. GaPatriot says:

    Here’s a sobering fact – I just had to call the IRS today. Went through a million different screens and never did talk to anyone because they said the call volume was too high.

    The most amazing thing though – this was the first automated phone call where I did NOT have to push 1 for English. Can you believe it – 40 million illegals here at least who cannot speak English and not ONE OF THEM has ever had to call the IRS!

    Maybe because “undocumented” actually means “freeloader” and “under the table” income? Oh, I guess that’s how that dishwasher from Guatemala was able to amass $59,000 in a few years to take back.

    I have no respect for the Sheriff who says he cannot enforce 287(g). If it is too hard after many smaller jurisdictions have been successful, then how will he serve with a complicated problem like a murder?

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