Bush offers to do his job?
Presidential candidate Duncan Hunter on the Lou Dobbs show asked why do we need to pass a bill for the Bush to do his sworn job? And why is the President using a sworn duty as a bargaining chip? Why would anyone trust Bush now?
MSNBC-WASHINGTON – President Bush, hoping to salvage immigration overhaul legislation, has agreed to an upfront infusion of money for federal border security efforts in a concession designed to win over skeptical conservatives.
Bush supports setting aside all the fees and penalties in the bill solely for tougher security on the border and workplace enforcement, White House press secretary Tony Snow said Thursday. The president on Monday morning will make the announcement of his backing for an amendment that two Republican senators have proposed to accomplish this end
Well, the problem is if they start seriously enforcing employment laws today, we’ll have 20 million illegal immigrants out of work. Which would be disruptive and most Americans do not support.
It makes sense to keep some portion of who’s here, and then start enforcing the laws, but of course, nobody (rightly) trusts Bush to do that.
Securing the border is weak tea compared to cracking down in illegal employers.
FYI
Bush has picked side -but not that of U.S. workers
D.A. King
Columnist
“This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.1-1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We well never again bring forward another amnesty bill like this.”-Ted Kennedy on the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which actually granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal aliens.
“…the bill is a mess because it doesn’t fully embrace its most important aim: amnesty.”Time magazine (June 18) on the Secure Borders, Economic Opportunity and Immigration Reform Act of 2007.
In what is unquestionably inconvenient timing for those who have so zealously denied the title – and somewhat amusing for the majority of the American people – this week’s edition of Time magazine, as its cover story, clearly tags the Bush/Kennedy “immigration” legislation for what it is – amnesty.
To no one’s surprise, Time then goes on to support the Senate amnesty bill.
This year, the amnesty is not only designed for illegal aliens, but the very corporate criminals who helped create the language of the legislation that has never seen a single public hearing in the Senate committee process or been the object of any hint of an official impact study to determine costs.
Those who study the issue and a growing number of everyday Americans understand that this is the last amnesty required to achieve the true goal – the eventual free flow of people the nation wrecking concept of “free trade” requires.
Next stop? What the Globalists label as “Deep Integration” – which is merely code for the long desired borderless continent and combining the economies, infrastructures and populations of North America.
Why? It’s more cost effective.
If the big money wins, history will likely not record the fact that the beleaguered American people are the only group involved in the current amnesty legislation battle without corporate funding, but it is true.
Whether or not the voices of the American people win out in the current struggle for the rule of law, what no one should ever forget is that the curtain has forever been lifted on the true agenda of George W. Bush.
With the whole world watching, the American president has picked a side. Sadly, it isn’t the side of the American worker or the republic he swore to protect.
We can all now note who in power are willing to strive to preserve the sovereignty of the United States of America – and who is willing to join the president in attempting to trade that priceless and sacred concept for an enlarged low – wage market place.
We can never forget that for more than six years, the president has refused, without penalty, to obey his oath of office, secure American borders or make any serious effort to enforce employment or immigration laws. He now tells us that to not legalize the illegals would result in being stuck with the chaos of the “status quo” he helped create.
What we have now is “silent amnesty” Bush explains in his desperate attempt to sell his idea of “what is right for America”. George Orwell would likely envy the contived‘Newspeak’.
Not this time Mr. President.
Few fail to notice that it is the same corporate lobbies that oppose raising the minimum wage that are now spending millions to press for legalization of the defacto slave labor that is endless in its supply and will quietly suffer working conditions that were supposed to have vanished in the U.S. many years ago.
In his partnership with the far leftist Teddy Kennedy, the president’s effort to legalize the decades-old organized crime that is illegal immigration promises us that the amnesty will somehow “return the nation to the rule of law” and will allow us to secure the borders and sort through more than twenty million illegals to determine who is the most illegal.
This is the Chief Executive of the same federal government that cannot issue passports on time to its own citizens… with more than two years notice.
Presidential candidate and amnesty-again proponent Senator John McCain has a similar sales approach for the legislation: “Doing nothing is not an option” he says.
On this, McCain is right of course. Doing nothing is not an option and the American people will be carefully inspecting presidential candidates for any sign that they actually have the courage to vigorously assure us the most basic function of the U.S. government: Defended, defined borders and equal application of American law.
That is what is right for America.
What is a bargaining cheap? Is that spanish for chip?
Meanwhile in the real world, islamic terrorists are staging a coup in Lebanon, arming opposition in Iraq and generally having free reign in the middle east.
While immigration reform is definitely important, the lack of serious attention being paid to islamic expansion could result in a much more serious predicament.
Who cares what Duncan Hunter or a isolationist liberal news guy thinks. Hunter’s San Diego boondoggle discredits his positions on this issue.
Bart
DA LIBERAL???? Now that is a new spin from you guys!
For the globalists it looks like the money is increasing but the base is shrinking.
bb – another day, another fatwah…
John, I stopped believing Bush when he said he was against “nation building” during the 2000 debates.
The $6 billion for border security is in the bill, but not specifically funded (the source has not been identified)…this addition to the deficit is what Bush is counting on to bring right-wingers on board.
He’s certainly striking while the iron’s cold and unplugged!
I don’t think he realizes how entrenched people have been on this issue for so many years. I’m against a guest worker program…the concept sickens me, by reminding me of stories on working conditions in China, how the employers have total control over their workers.
My guess is he’s going to keep adding to the deficit with bribes to individual congressmen/women until the mark is reached.
For me, the downside of passage is clear…we’re in the same place we were before. The upside of passage is that once these people become citizens, they’ll be able to organize and join unions. I believe that when workers have bargaining power, the country prospers together. When it’s like it is now…only the top dogs make out.
These jobs that illegals are working…they’re ripe for unionization. That is a GOOD THING. The more union employees in America, the better it is for everyone. They’re on the books, paying taxes, and once they’re organized, they pay more taxes and help to raise the water level for everyone.
As long as they’re using stolen IDs and SSNs, that will never happen, and wage depression will continue since there’s no way an illegal immigrant can sue his/her employer for wrongful termination regarding an attempt to organize a union.
THAT IS STILL ILLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY – - – but unless you’re a citizen or here on a visa, you don’t have the right to sue. If the employer knows that to be true, then they can pay low and put the screws to them endlessly. Which also means, they can put the screws to you and I as well.
From a labor standpoint…you say you’re concerned about wages in America…well, unions are the answer, and my friend, the GOP isn’t really the party that supports unions.
The only “Omnibus” package Americans trust at this point is perhaps some huge “omnibuses” designed to take the illegal aliens back home. And there’s no need to weigh these bills down with pork and hidden gems which destroy our sovereignty or give amnesty to lawbreakers.
Al
The problem is the immigration bill Bush guarantees the over supply of labor. Also on top of hurting supply and demand side of work the guest worker program will pit workers with different level of rights. If you have a set of immigrant workers that employers can deport if they ask for raises or healthcare how can that help middle class Americans?
FYI
Bush’s Deal: Border Cash for Amnesty
FROM TOWN HALL
…Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D.-Nev.) said that he would not bring the immigration bill back up unless he received a prior commitment from 20 more Republicans to proceed. The bill was abandoned last week after only seven members of the GOP voted in favor of ending debate to move toward a final vote.
A Rasmussen Reports national phone survey conducted June 11and 12, while the President was publicly promoting the immigration bill, found that only 20 percent of voters wanted Congress to try and pass the Senate bill that failed last week. Sixty-nine percent favored an approach that focused“exclusively on securing the border and reducing illegal immigration.”
Sen. Jim DeMint (R.-S.C.) is unconvinced the $4.4 billion expenditure would rally public support for the bill. In a phone interview, he said, “If all they do is start spending money, that’s not going to convince anybody. We all know that the federal government spends lots of money and doesn’t get much done.”
DeMint continued: “What they are doing is that they are holding the things that need to be done hostage for amnesty. There is no reason we need to grant permanent legal status to illegal aliens before we have a secure border, before we have a worker ID and before we have a legal program that works.”
Republican candidate for President Rep. Duncan Hunter (Calif) noted, “The Department of Homeland Security has almost a billion dollars on hand now for the border fence and road and lights and sensors.”……
“Almost a billion dollars” — sounds like a Dr. Evil line.
Almost a billion gets you almost 100 miles of fence, probably completed sometime around 2140 based on Duncan’s San Diego boondoggle. That does not include technology, just brick, mortar and wire.
Money without a plan will end up fixing nothing — see front page of USAToday, Friday edition for example — $485M overpaid to Katrina ‘victims’ (how is one a victim if warned to leave prior to a storm hitting…seems a better term would be dumbass).
Speaking of the San Diego border fence, take a look at what $40M buys you — http://www.panoramio.com/photo/469352.
If you want to see more, use Google Earth and zoom in on San Diego.
Is this what Duncan Hunter proposes to waste “almost a billion dollars” on?
Do you ‘Build the Fence’ folks really have a clue about what is being proposed? Or do you just respond favorably because it sounds good?
Sorry, apparently the link does not work. But you can get there through Google Earth….click on icon next to San Diego coastline titled ‘border fence’.
Bart
Now that President Bush with your help and support got us 9 trillion in the red and growing, you want to talk about fiscal issues?
Did you not support the highway bill with Congressman Tom Price?
Did you not support the drug bill with Tom Price with no money to pay for it?
Bart I could go on all day with all the pork you promoted as good government!
John,
So you support building a fence like the one in San Diego no matter the cost or benefit (lack thereof), but oppose getting more money back from DC to Georgia to help alleviate our traffic woes?
Your priorities are out of wack John.
Bart
At 21k an illegal immigrant (if they pay taxes) it would not take many to pay for the fence.
You on other hand support giving away the 21k per immigrant worker via tax payers!
It is this logic that has our Country close to 9 trillion in cash flow debt and 50 trillion in real debt obligations!
That’s a baseless number John. Deal with the real data put out by CBO and CEA.
Do you support building a fence like the one in San Diego at a cost of $40M for 11 miles that took over 14 years?
So you think the most well respected conservative think tank(Heratige) is givig out baseless data?
How much is Hillary paying you?
I think you’re explaining to me something I already stated in my comment.
The ‘guest worker’ provision is totally against my values, and doesn’t allow me to support any bill that contains it.
Illegals paying a fine, learning English, touching base back in their home country…however it happens…as long as when they are here, they can vote and have their own social security number AND they can organize – - – - THAT is the goal if I’m debating the issue.
When I turn on Michael Savage from time to time at night, that’s not the jist of it at all. He’s talking about no path to citizenship, which just seems stupid to me. It’s not like we could round them all up even if we tried to do so. The concept is complete fantasy.
Do you support building a fence like the one in San Diego at a cost of $40M for 11 miles that took over 14 years?
Bad data in….errouneous results. Simple math John.
Bush offers to do his job? The elected president of the United States offers to do his job? What a freakin’ concept….where the hell has HE been for the past 6 1/2 years? The unfortunate thing is that I voted once for this guy, only because the alternatives were worse – what great motivation in voting!!! This guy is a disaster – from the unwillingness to accept sound military and political advise on the war in Iraq, for engaging in wishful thinking in the aftermath, for the deficit and this immigration reform sham…… He’s got to go! I just don’t believe a word he, or for that matter, ANYONE in Congress (now THERE”S a gaggle of our supposed best and brightest!) says. They all have zero credibility with me.
An aside – on voting: I lived in Brazil in the mid-1980’s, and mayoral elections were held all through the country. It was against the law to be elected to a 2nd consecutive term, so one guy would run for a 4-year term, then would pick his successor, and it would go back and forth. Apparently voters in Rio de Janeiro got sick of it, and cast write-in votes for a popular monkey in the Rio zoo….he got a plurality of the votes!!! Hell, with what we have in government these days, perhaps monkeys would be a breath of fresh air….
“I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.” — Col. Nathan R. Jessup, USMC, A Few Good Men (1992)
Spelling – advice, not advise. Sorry.
Bart
Please tell us why the data is wrong?
Please tell us why you have no respect for the top conservative think tank in the COUNTRY?
Please tell us how a low wage guest worker could pay enough in taxes to cover, schools,healthcare,police……???
Al
I do agree there are racist on both sides making arguments. Also the concept of assimilation is not racist. I do not know why you would be against English only laws?
As soon as you answer the question.
Bart
If we do not agree on cost on illegal immigrants how can I answer the question?
Simple John, you complain constantly about wasteful government spending. There is more than ample proof that a fence would be wasteful government spending. Do you want to build a fence after seeing what has happened on the San Diego border?
BTW, visit Google Earth to see what $40M will buy after 14 years of construction (11 miles, still not finished).