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Chris Matthews Calls Rudy Giuliani a Liar with Joe Biden

Did Rudy lie?

6 Responses to “Chris Matthews Calls Rudy Giuliani a Liar with Joe Biden”

  1. LeftHook says:

    Something about talking to Biden gets Matthews fired up. Didn’t somebody post a clip of the two of them a few weeks ago?

  2. Jan Paul says:

    All Giuliani said was that Clinton had a policy of regime change. Was that a “stretch” of what Clinton said when he made his speech to the nation after he bombed Iraq? Or was he just kidding?
    Quote:
    Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.
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    CNN/AllPolitics – Storypage, with TIME and Congressional Quarterly

    Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike

    CLINTON: Good evening.

    Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq’s nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

    Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

    Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

    I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

    Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq’s capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability.

    The inspectors undertook this mission first 7.5 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.

    The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.

    The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

    The United States has patiently worked to preserve UNSCOM as Iraq has sought to avoid its obligation to cooperate with the inspectors. On occasion, we’ve had to threaten military force, and Saddam has backed down.

    Faced with Saddam’s latest act of defiance in late October, we built intensive diplomatic pressure on Iraq backed by overwhelming military force in the region. The UN Security Council voted 15 to zero to condemn Saddam’s actions and to demand that he immediately come into compliance.
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    I made it very clear at that time what unconditional cooperation meant, based on existing UN resolutions and Iraq’s own commitments. And along with Prime Minister Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully, we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.
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    That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team — including the vice president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of state and the national security adviser — I have ordered a strong, sustained series of air strikes against Iraq.

    They are designed to degrade Saddam’s capacity to develop and deliver weapons of mass destruction, and to degrade his ability to threaten his neighbors.

    At the same time, we are delivering a powerful message to Saddam. If you act recklessly, you will pay a heavy price.
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    The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

    The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government — a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently.
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    I think all of us remember that speech and that Bill Clinton would have liked to have had a “regime change.” How much more clear can Bill Clinton be than he was when he said, “that so long as Saddam remains in power” and “The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government.”

    Did Biden forget that speech and that desire? Apparently Giuliani didn’t and many Americans haven’t forgotten either. There was always a desire to get Saddam out of power ever since the first Gulf war.

    While the Bush handling of the whole Iraq issue has been a mess, to deny Bill Clinton’s own words and think Americans don’t remember what Bill said to the nation that day, is foolish.

  3. Jan Paul says:

    No wonder Americans are getting fed up with both parties. They can’t keep their stories straight for all the lies both parties tell.

  4. JohnKonop says:

    Jan

    GREAT POINT!

  5. Joe Oliva says:

    I agree with Jan & John. It is time for a regime change here at home, getting both parties out of power.

    Let’s start at the top in 2008. Visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG and see how we can do it.

  6. Barack Obama says:

    I really like what you had to say here! It\’s about time! Would you mind if I placed a link back from my blog?

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