Disclaimer: Opinions posted on ControlCongress.com are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of ControlCongress.com or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, and NO racism or violence in comments.
John, this is not a “Bush Sell Out”. This is High Treason, right before our eyes. Nothing less, in my opinion.
John, your posts often are great, but you don’t have the fire in the belly to call a spade a spade. This is Treason! On the part of just about all of our elected officials as they have not called Bush et al on this. They have not moved for impeachment as a first step before taking the Traitors before courts of law. Where am I wrong?
Why did Congress pursue the Monica Lewinski scandal and impeachment charges, yet Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gonzalez are getting a get out of jail free card?
Bill,
Did you ask Dobbs why he wasn’t trying to help Dr. Paul? I sent Dobbs an e-mail two days ago on the matter and I asked Lou if CNN had his testicles in a vise?
I do like Lou Dobbs a lot, but it appears he is going out of his was to hurt Dr. Paul!
Why did Congress pursue the Monica Lewinski scandal and impeachment charges, yet Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gonzalez are getting a get out of jail free card?
I can’t answer the reason but I can tell you that’s why their ratings are so low.
You conspiracy kooks need to really take a step back and get a grip. Lou Dobbs is a money whore with a very small audience of you folks who fall for any wacked out theory he puts forth. Dobbs could care less about SPP or anything else unless it makes him money…what a bunch of suckers!
Hugh
Somebody did ask a similar question although I don’t think they used the word “testicle”. He came up with some reason that I can’t even remember. Frankly it boggles my mind why Lou Dobbs isn’t supporting him. Because they both are on the same side of many issues including: open borders, elitists, corporate welfare, BS treaties which destroy our sovereignty, and others.
Hugh
I think some of the media figures are either co-opted, jaded, controlled, or could be they don’t want to loose audience by jumping in with a “fringe” candidate. Some of them have probably been burned before.
I’ve presented factual statements many times before on this topic. But you and the conspiracy folks don’t want facts to disuade from your delusional paranoia about W “destroying America”.
If you think this is a kooky conspiracy has not read enough. Go to NAU or SPP. This is real. Been planned for many yrs but NAFTA helped it along. If we don’t stop illegals and terrorists from coming into this country we will be fighting Mexicans for low paying jobs.
Swillary wants to give illegals drivers licenses so they can vote. When you get a drivers license they ask if you want to register to vote. You have to know how to read and write English to become a citizen. Why then do we have ballots in Spanish
Allowing non-citizens to cast ballots being considered by more cities
Atlanta Journal-Constitution : November 7 , 2007 — by EUNICE MOSCOSO
“One illegal immigrant voting is one too many,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that advocates stronger immigration controls.
Should non-citizens be allowed to vote? Officials in Takoma Park, Md., think so. The city, a liberal enclave near the nation’s capital, is one of a few local jurisdictions that encourage non-citizens to vote. Since Takoma Park does not ask for proof of legal residence, it is possible that illegal immigrants were casting ballots this week.
In a few other small cities in Maryland, all residents are allowed to participate in local elections, regardless of citizenship status. Chicago allows non-citizens to vote in school board elections and New York City is considering a proposal to give voting rights to legal immigrants. New York City allowed non-citizens to vote in school board elections for more than three decades, until 2003.
In addition, the Massachusetts cities of Amherst, Cambridge and Newton have approved measures to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections, but the ordinances require approval of the state legislature, which hasn’t acted yet.
About a dozen other cities, including Portland, Maine, and Madison, Wis., are considering similar proposals, said Ron Hayduk, co-founder of the Immigrant Voting Project, a non-profit group that supports voting rights for non-citizens.
Hayduk said that non-citizens are paying taxes, working, and in some cases, revitalizing entire neighborhoods and, therefore, should have a say in the future of their communities.
“These people are stake holders,” he said. “They have vested interests. They are non-citizen citizens.”
But others believe that allowing non-citizens to vote erodes the electoral process and the meaning of citizenship.
Voting by non-citizens has become a hot political topic since Democratic presidential frontrunner Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York expressed support for a proposal by New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer to allow illegal immigrants to get driver’s licenses.
Two of her GOP rivals — former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee — said that the plan could lead to fraud, with illegal immigrants casting ballots.
“Voting is a precious right of a citizen. It is absolutely not the privilege that should be extended to somebody who is not a citizen of this country, period,” Huckabee said.
Experts said there is no evidence to support charges that illegal immigrants are committing fraud by casting ballots in any kind of significant way.
“Voting by illegal immigrants has not been a serious problem in the United States. Indeed, evidence of election fraud by individuals is almost nonexistent,” said Thomas Mann, a congressional scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington. “I doubt illegal immigrants would try to use driver’s licenses to vote. … Voting is low on their list of priorities.”
But opponents say that the problem of illegal immigrants voting has not been studied so there is no way to know how much it has occurred.
“One illegal immigrant voting is one too many,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that advocates stronger immigration controls.
Krikorian said that granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants would increase the instances of voter fraud, because of a 1993 law known as “Motor Voter,” which allows people to register to vote when they get their driver’s licenses.
Rep. Brian Bilbray, a California Republican who chairs the House Immigration Reform Caucus, testified before Congress earlier this year that the potential for non-citizens voting is a growing concern, especially when you “consider the relaxed registration requirements and a lax screening process at the time of voting.”
“There is a very real possibility that non-citizens have affected the outcomes of elections in the past and will in the future,” he said.
There have been some isolated studies on non-citizens voting, including:
*In Utah, a state audit in 2005 showed that more than 58,000 people who appeared to be illegal immigrants had driver’s licenses and 383 used their license to register to vote. Of those, 14 voted in an election.
*A 1997 investigation into a disputed House seat in California found that 743 non-citizens cast votes. The total was not enough to overturn the election which was narrowly won by Rep. Loretta Sanchez, a Democrat.
The idea of non-citizens voting is not so far-fetched.
Non-citizens had the right to vote in the United States from 1776 to 1926, said Hayduk, who authored a book on the subject: “Democracy for All: Restoring Immigrant Voting Rights in the United States.”
Forty states and territories allowed non-citizens to vote in local, state, and even federal elections, and in many of those places, non-citizens were also allowed to run for office, he said.
The situation changed after World War I, when Americans were feeling a strong backlash against immigrants.
Hayduk said that excluding non-citizens from voting amounts to “taxation without representation” and is similar to the historical exclusion of African Americans and women from the electoral process.
“Voting has always been about who’s going to have a say,” he said.
Swillary will win if illegals vote. Her people will gather them up off the streeta to take to the polls.
Everyone knows that not only illegals are coming across the border but so are terrorists. But they want big business to have low wages so they ignore it. Europeans are fleeing their countries because of the high influx of Muslims. We are putting foot baths in our colleges so Muslims can bathe their feet before praying 5 times a day. The government in America has gone completely crazy.
Watch Glen Beck. He had a Mexican sheriff in Laredo Texas talking about how badly this fence needs to go up. The Mexican Congressman for that area was also on, and of course said it isn’t needed. A team of men who fly the border to check out the fence “being built” said the government has built a short flimsy fence not too layered in a area of desert that gets no foot traffic. They landed and said they saw plenty of tire treads but not foot prints. He also said if this ratty fence costs as much as they say it did then the construction guy is a thief
I agree that this is treason. They want this NAU through so the elites can live on their lavish homes on the hill and look down on poverty just as the corrupt Mexican government does. Type in wealthy Mexicans. The guy who “owns” Mexico just passed Bill Gates in wealth
Swillary gets millions of dollars from India. Just type in Clinton and India. She has promised them outsourcing will never stop. She is one of America’s biggest dangers.
John, excellent video.
John, this is not a “Bush Sell Out”. This is High Treason, right before our eyes. Nothing less, in my opinion.
John, your posts often are great, but you don’t have the fire in the belly to call a spade a spade. This is Treason! On the part of just about all of our elected officials as they have not called Bush et al on this. They have not moved for impeachment as a first step before taking the Traitors before courts of law. Where am I wrong?
Treason and sedition charges are in order.
Why did Congress pursue the Monica Lewinski scandal and impeachment charges, yet Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gonzalez are getting a get out of jail free card?
So you are against ’security and prosperity’ for America. How old is this video John?
Why do you support Al Qaeda while opposing ’security and prosperity’ for America?
bb
Would you take your kids to “Day care with Ted Bundy” just because they called it “Fun times with Bozo and Barney”? Boy you’re gullible.
I went to a book signing with Lou Dobbs this past Sunday and it was a great experience.
Bill,
Did you ask Dobbs why he wasn’t trying to help Dr. Paul? I sent Dobbs an e-mail two days ago on the matter and I asked Lou if CNN had his testicles in a vise?
I do like Lou Dobbs a lot, but it appears he is going out of his was to hurt Dr. Paul!
Why did Congress pursue the Monica Lewinski scandal and impeachment charges, yet Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gonzalez are getting a get out of jail free card?
I can’t answer the reason but I can tell you that’s why their ratings are so low.
Bart
Only a NEOCON could come up with that spin!
Brilliant reply John and so original.
You conspiracy kooks need to really take a step back and get a grip. Lou Dobbs is a money whore with a very small audience of you folks who fall for any wacked out theory he puts forth. Dobbs could care less about SPP or anything else unless it makes him money…what a bunch of suckers!
Bart
Do you have facts or just spin?
Hugh
Somebody did ask a similar question although I don’t think they used the word “testicle”. He came up with some reason that I can’t even remember. Frankly it boggles my mind why Lou Dobbs isn’t supporting him. Because they both are on the same side of many issues including: open borders, elitists, corporate welfare, BS treaties which destroy our sovereignty, and others.
Hugh
I think some of the media figures are either co-opted, jaded, controlled, or could be they don’t want to loose audience by jumping in with a “fringe” candidate. Some of them have probably been burned before.
John,
I’ve presented factual statements many times before on this topic. But you and the conspiracy folks don’t want facts to disuade from your delusional paranoia about W “destroying America”.
If you think this is a kooky conspiracy has not read enough. Go to NAU or SPP. This is real. Been planned for many yrs but NAFTA helped it along. If we don’t stop illegals and terrorists from coming into this country we will be fighting Mexicans for low paying jobs.
Swillary wants to give illegals drivers licenses so they can vote. When you get a drivers license they ask if you want to register to vote. You have to know how to read and write English to become a citizen. Why then do we have ballots in Spanish
Allowing non-citizens to cast ballots being considered by more cities
Atlanta Journal-Constitution : November 7 , 2007 — by EUNICE MOSCOSO
“One illegal immigrant voting is one too many,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that advocates stronger immigration controls.
Should non-citizens be allowed to vote? Officials in Takoma Park, Md., think so. The city, a liberal enclave near the nation’s capital, is one of a few local jurisdictions that encourage non-citizens to vote. Since Takoma Park does not ask for proof of legal residence, it is possible that illegal immigrants were casting ballots this week.
In a few other small cities in Maryland, all residents are allowed to participate in local elections, regardless of citizenship status. Chicago allows non-citizens to vote in school board elections and New York City is considering a proposal to give voting rights to legal immigrants. New York City allowed non-citizens to vote in school board elections for more than three decades, until 2003.
In addition, the Massachusetts cities of Amherst, Cambridge and Newton have approved measures to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections, but the ordinances require approval of the state legislature, which hasn’t acted yet.
About a dozen other cities, including Portland, Maine, and Madison, Wis., are considering similar proposals, said Ron Hayduk, co-founder of the Immigrant Voting Project, a non-profit group that supports voting rights for non-citizens.
Hayduk said that non-citizens are paying taxes, working, and in some cases, revitalizing entire neighborhoods and, therefore, should have a say in the future of their communities.
“These people are stake holders,” he said. “They have vested interests. They are non-citizen citizens.”
But others believe that allowing non-citizens to vote erodes the electoral process and the meaning of citizenship.
Voting by non-citizens has become a hot political topic since Democratic presidential frontrunner Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York expressed support for a proposal by New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer to allow illegal immigrants to get driver’s licenses.
Two of her GOP rivals — former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee — said that the plan could lead to fraud, with illegal immigrants casting ballots.
“Voting is a precious right of a citizen. It is absolutely not the privilege that should be extended to somebody who is not a citizen of this country, period,” Huckabee said.
Experts said there is no evidence to support charges that illegal immigrants are committing fraud by casting ballots in any kind of significant way.
“Voting by illegal immigrants has not been a serious problem in the United States. Indeed, evidence of election fraud by individuals is almost nonexistent,” said Thomas Mann, a congressional scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington. “I doubt illegal immigrants would try to use driver’s licenses to vote. … Voting is low on their list of priorities.”
But opponents say that the problem of illegal immigrants voting has not been studied so there is no way to know how much it has occurred.
“One illegal immigrant voting is one too many,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that advocates stronger immigration controls.
Krikorian said that granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants would increase the instances of voter fraud, because of a 1993 law known as “Motor Voter,” which allows people to register to vote when they get their driver’s licenses.
Rep. Brian Bilbray, a California Republican who chairs the House Immigration Reform Caucus, testified before Congress earlier this year that the potential for non-citizens voting is a growing concern, especially when you “consider the relaxed registration requirements and a lax screening process at the time of voting.”
“There is a very real possibility that non-citizens have affected the outcomes of elections in the past and will in the future,” he said.
There have been some isolated studies on non-citizens voting, including:
*In Utah, a state audit in 2005 showed that more than 58,000 people who appeared to be illegal immigrants had driver’s licenses and 383 used their license to register to vote. Of those, 14 voted in an election.
*A 1997 investigation into a disputed House seat in California found that 743 non-citizens cast votes. The total was not enough to overturn the election which was narrowly won by Rep. Loretta Sanchez, a Democrat.
The idea of non-citizens voting is not so far-fetched.
Non-citizens had the right to vote in the United States from 1776 to 1926, said Hayduk, who authored a book on the subject: “Democracy for All: Restoring Immigrant Voting Rights in the United States.”
Forty states and territories allowed non-citizens to vote in local, state, and even federal elections, and in many of those places, non-citizens were also allowed to run for office, he said.
The situation changed after World War I, when Americans were feeling a strong backlash against immigrants.
Hayduk said that excluding non-citizens from voting amounts to “taxation without representation” and is similar to the historical exclusion of African Americans and women from the electoral process.
“Voting has always been about who’s going to have a say,” he said.
Swillary will win if illegals vote. Her people will gather them up off the streeta to take to the polls.
Everyone knows that not only illegals are coming across the border but so are terrorists. But they want big business to have low wages so they ignore it. Europeans are fleeing their countries because of the high influx of Muslims. We are putting foot baths in our colleges so Muslims can bathe their feet before praying 5 times a day. The government in America has gone completely crazy.
Watch Glen Beck. He had a Mexican sheriff in Laredo Texas talking about how badly this fence needs to go up. The Mexican Congressman for that area was also on, and of course said it isn’t needed. A team of men who fly the border to check out the fence “being built” said the government has built a short flimsy fence not too layered in a area of desert that gets no foot traffic. They landed and said they saw plenty of tire treads but not foot prints. He also said if this ratty fence costs as much as they say it did then the construction guy is a thief
I agree that this is treason. They want this NAU through so the elites can live on their lavish homes on the hill and look down on poverty just as the corrupt Mexican government does. Type in wealthy Mexicans. The guy who “owns” Mexico just passed Bill Gates in wealth
Swillary gets millions of dollars from India. Just type in Clinton and India. She has promised them outsourcing will never stop. She is one of America’s biggest dangers.
MYKE
That is why Rudy vs. Hillary is more of the Bush NEOCON agenda!