DING DONG THE BILL IS DEAD!
Well Bart- thank you for the “discussion.” Congrats!
AMERICA WINS!
So how does Victory smell, Bart?
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress – 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Cloture Motion (Upon Reconsideration, Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Kennedy Amdt. No. 1150, As Amended )
Vote Number: 206 Vote Date: June 7, 2007, 08:24 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 1150 to to S. 1348 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 )
Statement of Purpose: In the nature of a substitute.
Vote Counts:
YEAs 45
NAYs 50
Not Voting 4
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Grouped By Vote PositionYEAs —45
Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Specter (R-PA)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
NAYs —50
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Boxer (D-CA)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lott (R-MS)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Not Voting – 4
Brownback (R-KS)
Coburn (R-OK)
Enzi (R-WY)
Johnson (D-SD)
Hey Bart– you should call La Raza and have your pity party together!
As I stated in the very first post on this topic, the legislation would suffer a slow death.
Now what eeevil. Open borders remain, amnesty continues and you consider this a victory?!!!
I find it quite humorous that know nothings like you and John relish the defeat as if it will lead to an improvement in stopping illegal immigration.
Learn to speak spanish eeevil. Instead of addressing the problem, we will continue on a path to elimination of any regard toward border protection. What a disgrace to be excited about thwarting real change to a real crisis. You should be ashamed.
And one more thing; the amendments approved would have subjected small business to detrimental government regulations. I am satisfied that the bill went down as it was going to increase government burden on the very fabric that makes America great!
I think I will drink one last margarita, eat another taco and celebrate the fact that America will continue to thrive as the most open free market economy in the world. The loss hurts dems big time…GOP can claim victory and move forward to elect Rudy as our next president.
“I’m just a Bill up on Capital Hill.”
I can’t believe “schoolhouse rock” is on youtube!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ
Bart
You want business to stick tax payers with cost of cheap immigrant labor bottom line!
This is a victory for the People of the United States. Bart, your comments are ludicrous. Perhaps the right answer is to enforce the laws already on the books? Now there’s a novel idea!
DING DONG INDEED!
Great idea Mac…did you come up with that one all by yourself. With 21 years of proof that current laws do not work, the only ludicrous idea is to continue on the same path…otherwise known as insanity.
You, John and eeevil better learn spanish because current laws allowed 20M invaders to cross the border unfettered.
John,
Do you ever have an original thought? Or do you just hit ctrl ‘c’ / ctrl ‘v’ for every post?
bb,
The problem has been for the last 21 years that the current laws have not been enforced and not allowed to work by the successive Congresses and Presidents during that time. It’s like Duncan Hunter’s Secure Border Fence bill which was signed by Pres. Bush in Oct 2006 which authorized at least 700 miles of border fence and to this point only about 2 miles have been built. Why the stall?
The American people are tired of being jerked around and lied to all of the time. Built the fence FIRST and once that has happened (trust and verify), then we can deal with the illegal aliens already here, pure and simple!
Dustdevil
You’re right. Laws are one thing and bureaucracies with their own agendas is another. The laws are there. That ain’t the problem. So we fix the laws and trust a bunch of globalist, open border necons to do it???
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.
Bart
The GOP talking points are not working!
Mac and Dustdevil
I agree!
Bart
Bush allows the current flood of illegal immigrants not the law!
Bart-
21 years of proof that gov’t is CORRUPT and won’t enforce the laws when business owners ask them not to (with a wink, a nod, and a nice check)
ashamed? LOL!
I am proud to be for the rule of law, enforcing laws equally to big corporations and politicos.
You keep repeating the same lie over and over…the American people know better. They know the laws have not been enforced, and they know WHY.
good luck with Julio Guiliani…
EEvil dont count your chickens quite yet. This Bill is not dead and when all the bribes in pork are laid out dont be surprised to see it reemerge and be so confusing that even lawyers wont be able to figure it out.
eeevil,
How’s the drug war working out? Billions have been spent to lose that one with over bearing enforcement, thousands in overcrowded jails and yet is it any harder today to find dope than it was 20 years ago???
You rant on about enforcement. The law cannot be enforced just like the drug war is a failure despite all forms of enforcement. It is going to take a much more complex approach than the assinine idea of ‘build a fence, that’ll stop dem damn mexicans’.
When someone dams a river, do they build 1/3 of the dam and expect the water to stop flowing? How in the world does anybody support building a 700 mile fence (at a cost of over $10M per mile) to protect a 2000 mile border? That concept is just absolutely DUMB!
The San Diego fence conjured up by Duncan Hunter is 6x times over budget after 14 years and still isn’t complete. And it was only 14 freakin’ miles!!! Do you even care about property rights, cost or inevitable outcome?
At some point, you, John and others are going to have to put intelligence ahead of emotion. As Newt said, “Real change requires real change”. The 21 year status quo is an abject failure and to hope by some magical occurence it will change is absolutely insane. We need a real discussion with the goal of real change to hopefully avoid an even bigger real disaster.
Our largest systemic national problem, by far, is that the imaginary divided, segmented and fragmented nation that is depicted on the political map of the United States has had a Congress for almost 220 years now whereas the real United States, the one nation undivided, has never had a Congress in its entire history.
It is time for that situation to be reversed and time is not on our side.
We need a Congress that is and functions as The Congress of the United States of America.
It is not necessary to be anti-anything in order to be pro-American and pro-Americans.
TK
Tom Kiser
I like that comment!!!
And at the risk of sounding like a tinfoil hat wearer, perhaps the “divide and conquer” system has been in play from the onset. Blue states vs. red states?? And of course the “divisive” issues are what the political powers hone in on.
It was especially interesting yesterday to hear Sean Hannity talk about emails he rec’d. On the day s1348 stalled and Paris Hilton was ordered back to jail, Hannity rec’d 3x as many emails about Hilton.
Just goes to show that most conservative talk show listeners care more about a bimbo blonde’s troubles than the immigration issue.
Bart
Why did lawmakers back away from the bill on both sides?
Life support kicked in I guess…ding dong, the bill is ALIVE!
I’m not overly thrilled with its resuscitation as the amended version will likely impose tremendous hardship on small to medium sized businesses.
“Why did lawmakers back away from the bill on both sides?”
According to Boortz, they did so to let the rhetoric calm a bit before proceeding. That makes as much sense as anything else.
Bart–
La Bill is a disaster…
the only folks that are FOR this bill are folks who can’t manage to maintain their “status quo” in this country without BREAKING THE LAW!
No eeevil, there are actually intelligent people who get it…introduction of s1348 got the conversation rolling (unfortunately too many like yourself demagogue instead of discuss based on facts). Prior to May 9, very few people were even talking about illegal immigration, now it has moved to about third place in most issue polls.
Remember the first line — DRAFT — FOR DISCUSSION PUROPOSES ONLY
DISCUSSION eeevil…that is what is taking place. Your non-enforcable status quo is a failure…Anybody supporting failure should reconsider their position.