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	<title>Comments on: E. EDWARDS V. MCCAIN ON HEALTH CARE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insurance Automobile Insurance Home Owners Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 10:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/e-edwards-v-mccain-on-health-care#comment-70636</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't understand some parts of this article le + ' - ' + basename(imgurl) + '(' + w + 'x' + h +'), but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: Sgt Mac</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/e-edwards-v-mccain-on-health-care#comment-70387</link>
		<dc:creator>Sgt Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - Two quick points;

1. You ask if this sounds like "free" healthcare - Is that a joke?

2. Try as I might, I STILL can't find a single sentence in the U.S. Constitution about the Federal Government (read: U.S. Taxpayer) providing heathcare.

One fnal note; Elizabeth Edwards has cancer, and that is a real shame. I wish her well. I strongly recommend she use some of her husband's millions to pay for treatment or, perhaps, contact Bill or Hill for a donation. According to the recent income tax data published, either of them can afford this better than John Q. Public.

Oh, and despite what this rube Paul Krugman writes, free markets and competition WILL drive down cost. Is the NY Slimes even a credible source?

The U.S. Government has ZERO mandate to donate to charity with taxpayer money. Recommend you read the enumerated powers in your handy pocket Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John - Two quick points;</p>
<p>1. You ask if this sounds like &#8220;free&#8221; healthcare - Is that a joke?</p>
<p>2. Try as I might, I STILL can&#8217;t find a single sentence in the U.S. Constitution about the Federal Government (read: U.S. Taxpayer) providing heathcare.</p>
<p>One fnal note; Elizabeth Edwards has cancer, and that is a real shame. I wish her well. I strongly recommend she use some of her husband&#8217;s millions to pay for treatment or, perhaps, contact Bill or Hill for a donation. According to the recent income tax data published, either of them can afford this better than John Q. Public.</p>
<p>Oh, and despite what this rube Paul Krugman writes, free markets and competition WILL drive down cost. Is the NY Slimes even a credible source?</p>
<p>The U.S. Government has ZERO mandate to donate to charity with taxpayer money. Recommend you read the enumerated powers in your handy pocket Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/e-edwards-v-mccain-on-health-care#comment-70356</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;McCain on Health Care: Cutting Costs Is Key&lt;/strong&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;NPR-Both Democratic presidential hopefuls continue to debate their plans to cover the 47 million Americans who currently have no health insurance. But presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain's plan would move the nation's health care system in a different direction from proposals by Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. 

"The problem is not that most Americans lack adequate health insurance — the vast majority of Americans have private insurance, and our government spends billions each year to provide even more," McCain has said. "The biggest problem with the American health care system is that it costs too much."

The thrust of McCain's plan is to encourage people to buy their own insurance — rather than get it through their jobs. He'd do that using several strategies: giving people tax credits, encouraging more people to set up tax-advantaged health savings accounts, and letting them buy insurance policies across state lines.

McCain also wants to rein in the government's big health care programs, Medicare and Medicaid. Just this week in Pittsburgh, for example, he criticized Medicare's new drug benefit for being too generous.

"People like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet don't need their prescriptions underwritten by taxpayers. Those who can afford to buy their own prescription drugs should be expected to do so," he said.

And one thing McCain says he won't do is impose any sort of requirement that people have health insurance — the sort of mandate that Clinton and Obama are currently sparring over.

But there are a lot of questions about whether McCain's plan actually would make health insurance more affordable and more available.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>McCain on Health Care: Cutting Costs Is Key</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>NPR-Both Democratic presidential hopefuls continue to debate their plans to cover the 47 million Americans who currently have no health insurance. But presumptive Republican nominee Sen. John McCain&#8217;s plan would move the nation&#8217;s health care system in a different direction from proposals by Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. </p>
<p>&#8220;The problem is not that most Americans lack adequate health insurance — the vast majority of Americans have private insurance, and our government spends billions each year to provide even more,&#8221; McCain has said. &#8220;The biggest problem with the American health care system is that it costs too much.&#8221;</p>
<p>The thrust of McCain&#8217;s plan is to encourage people to buy their own insurance — rather than get it through their jobs. He&#8217;d do that using several strategies: giving people tax credits, encouraging more people to set up tax-advantaged health savings accounts, and letting them buy insurance policies across state lines.</p>
<p>McCain also wants to rein in the government&#8217;s big health care programs, Medicare and Medicaid. Just this week in Pittsburgh, for example, he criticized Medicare&#8217;s new drug benefit for being too generous.</p>
<p>&#8220;People like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet don&#8217;t need their prescriptions underwritten by taxpayers. Those who can afford to buy their own prescription drugs should be expected to do so,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>And one thing McCain says he won&#8217;t do is impose any sort of requirement that people have health insurance — the sort of mandate that Clinton and Obama are currently sparring over.</p>
<p>But there are a lot of questions about whether McCain&#8217;s plan actually would make health insurance more affordable and more available.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/e-edwards-v-mccain-on-health-care#comment-70355</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John McCain's Greed-Based Health Care Plan&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/81501/" rel="nofollow"&gt;By Paul Krugman,&lt;/a&gt; The New York Times. Posted April 6, 2008.





&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. McCain's approach to health care is based on the fantasy that the magic of the marketplace can produce cheap health care for everyone. 

Elizabeth Edwards has cancer. John McCain has had cancer in the past. Last weekend, Mrs. Edwards bluntly pointed out that neither of them would be able to get insurance under Mr. McCain's health care plan.

It's about time someone said that and, more generally, made the case that Mr. McCain's approach to health care is based on voodoo economics -- not the supply-side voodoo that claims that cutting taxes increases revenues (though Mr. McCain says that, too), but the equally foolish claim, refuted by all available evidence, that the magic of the marketplace can produce cheap health care for everyone.

As Mrs. Edwards pointed out, the McCain health plan would do nothing to prevent insurance companies from denying coverage to those, like her and Mr. McCain, who have pre-existing medical conditions.

The McCain campaign's response was condescending and dismissive -- a statement that Mrs. Edwards doesn't understand the comprehensive nature of the senator's approach, which would harness "the power of competition to produce greater coverage for Americans," reducing costs so that even people with pre-existing conditions could afford care.

This is nonsense on multiple levels.

For one thing, even if you buy the premise that competition would reduce health care costs, the idea that it could cut costs enough to make insurance affordable for Americans with a history of cancer or other major diseases is sheer fantasy.

Beyond that, there's no reason to believe in these alleged cost reductions. Insurance companies do try to hold down "medical losses" -- the industry's term for what happens when an insurer actually ends up having to honor its promises by paying a client's medical bills. But they don't do this by promoting cost-effective medical care.

Instead, they hold down costs by only covering healthy people, screening out those who need coverage the most -- which was exactly the point Mrs. Edwards was making. They also deny as many claims as possible, forcing doctors and hospitals to spend large sums fighting to get paid.

And the international evidence on health care costs is overwhelming: the United States has the most privatized system, with the most market competition -- and it also has by far the highest health care costs in the world.

Yet the McCain health plan -- actually a set of bullet points on the campaign's Web site -- is entirely based on blind faith that competition among private insurers will solve all problems.

I'd like to single out one of these bullet points in particular -- the first substantive proposal Mr. McCain offers (the preceding entries are nothing but feel-good boilerplate).

As I've mentioned in past columns, the Veterans Health Administration is one of the few clear American success stories in the struggle to contain health care costs. Since it was reformed during the Clinton years, the V.A. has used the fact that it's an integrated system -- a system that takes long-term responsibility for its clients' health -- to deliver an impressive combination of high-quality care and low costs. It has also taken the lead in the use of information technology, which has both saved money and reduced medical errors.

Sure enough, Mr. McCain wants to privatize and, in effect, dismantle the V.A. Naturally, this destructive agenda comes wrapped in the flag: "America's veterans have fought for our freedom," says the McCain Web site. "We should give them freedom to choose to carry their V.A. dollars to a provider that gives them the timely care at high quality and in the best location."

That's a recipe for having healthy veterans drop out of the system, undermining its integrated nature and draining away resources.

Mr. McCain, then, is offering a completely wrongheaded approach to health care. But the way the campaign for the Democratic nomination has unfolded raises questions about how effective his eventual opponent will be in making that point.

Indeed, while Mrs. Edwards focused her criticism on Mr. McCain, she also made it clear that she prefers Hillary Clinton's approach -- "Sen. Clinton's plan is a great plan" -- to Barack Obama's. The Clinton plan closely resembles the plan for universal coverage that John Edwards laid out more than a year ago. By contrast, Mr. Obama offers a watered-down plan that falls short of universality, and it would have higher costs per person covered.

Worse yet, Mr. Obama attacked his Democratic rivals' health plans using conservative talking points about choice and the evil of having the government tell you what to do. That's going to make it hard -- if he is the nominee -- to refute Mr. McCain when he makes similar arguments on behalf of such things as privatizing veterans' care.

Still, health care ought to be a major issue in this campaign. I wonder if we'll have time to discuss it after we deal with more important subjects, like bowling and basketball. 

© 2007 The New York Times

AlterNet is making this New York Times material available in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107: This article is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/81501/" rel="nofollow">By Paul Krugman,</a> The New York Times. Posted April 6, 2008.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. McCain&#8217;s approach to health care is based on the fantasy that the magic of the marketplace can produce cheap health care for everyone. </p>
<p>Elizabeth Edwards has cancer. John McCain has had cancer in the past. Last weekend, Mrs. Edwards bluntly pointed out that neither of them would be able to get insurance under Mr. McCain&#8217;s health care plan.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about time someone said that and, more generally, made the case that Mr. McCain&#8217;s approach to health care is based on voodoo economics &#8212; not the supply-side voodoo that claims that cutting taxes increases revenues (though Mr. McCain says that, too), but the equally foolish claim, refuted by all available evidence, that the magic of the marketplace can produce cheap health care for everyone.</p>
<p>As Mrs. Edwards pointed out, the McCain health plan would do nothing to prevent insurance companies from denying coverage to those, like her and Mr. McCain, who have pre-existing medical conditions.</p>
<p>The McCain campaign&#8217;s response was condescending and dismissive &#8212; a statement that Mrs. Edwards doesn&#8217;t understand the comprehensive nature of the senator&#8217;s approach, which would harness &#8220;the power of competition to produce greater coverage for Americans,&#8221; reducing costs so that even people with pre-existing conditions could afford care.</p>
<p>This is nonsense on multiple levels.</p>
<p>For one thing, even if you buy the premise that competition would reduce health care costs, the idea that it could cut costs enough to make insurance affordable for Americans with a history of cancer or other major diseases is sheer fantasy.</p>
<p>Beyond that, there&#8217;s no reason to believe in these alleged cost reductions. Insurance companies do try to hold down &#8220;medical losses&#8221; &#8212; the industry&#8217;s term for what happens when an insurer actually ends up having to honor its promises by paying a client&#8217;s medical bills. But they don&#8217;t do this by promoting cost-effective medical care.</p>
<p>Instead, they hold down costs by only covering healthy people, screening out those who need coverage the most &#8212; which was exactly the point Mrs. Edwards was making. They also deny as many claims as possible, forcing doctors and hospitals to spend large sums fighting to get paid.</p>
<p>And the international evidence on health care costs is overwhelming: the United States has the most privatized system, with the most market competition &#8212; and it also has by far the highest health care costs in the world.</p>
<p>Yet the McCain health plan &#8212; actually a set of bullet points on the campaign&#8217;s Web site &#8212; is entirely based on blind faith that competition among private insurers will solve all problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to single out one of these bullet points in particular &#8212; the first substantive proposal Mr. McCain offers (the preceding entries are nothing but feel-good boilerplate).</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve mentioned in past columns, the Veterans Health Administration is one of the few clear American success stories in the struggle to contain health care costs. Since it was reformed during the Clinton years, the V.A. has used the fact that it&#8217;s an integrated system &#8212; a system that takes long-term responsibility for its clients&#8217; health &#8212; to deliver an impressive combination of high-quality care and low costs. It has also taken the lead in the use of information technology, which has both saved money and reduced medical errors.</p>
<p>Sure enough, Mr. McCain wants to privatize and, in effect, dismantle the V.A. Naturally, this destructive agenda comes wrapped in the flag: &#8220;America&#8217;s veterans have fought for our freedom,&#8221; says the McCain Web site. &#8220;We should give them freedom to choose to carry their V.A. dollars to a provider that gives them the timely care at high quality and in the best location.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a recipe for having healthy veterans drop out of the system, undermining its integrated nature and draining away resources.</p>
<p>Mr. McCain, then, is offering a completely wrongheaded approach to health care. But the way the campaign for the Democratic nomination has unfolded raises questions about how effective his eventual opponent will be in making that point.</p>
<p>Indeed, while Mrs. Edwards focused her criticism on Mr. McCain, she also made it clear that she prefers Hillary Clinton&#8217;s approach &#8212; &#8220;Sen. Clinton&#8217;s plan is a great plan&#8221; &#8212; to Barack Obama&#8217;s. The Clinton plan closely resembles the plan for universal coverage that John Edwards laid out more than a year ago. By contrast, Mr. Obama offers a watered-down plan that falls short of universality, and it would have higher costs per person covered.</p>
<p>Worse yet, Mr. Obama attacked his Democratic rivals&#8217; health plans using conservative talking points about choice and the evil of having the government tell you what to do. That&#8217;s going to make it hard &#8212; if he is the nominee &#8212; to refute Mr. McCain when he makes similar arguments on behalf of such things as privatizing veterans&#8217; care.</p>
<p>Still, health care ought to be a major issue in this campaign. I wonder if we&#8217;ll have time to discuss it after we deal with more important subjects, like bowling and basketball. </p>
<p>© 2007 The New York Times</p>
<p>AlterNet is making this New York Times material available in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107: This article is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.</p></blockquote>
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