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	<title>Comments on: Economic Stimulus Package: Rebate or Welfare?</title>
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		<title>By: David O'Rear</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O'Rear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, but I do think that stimulation this summer isn&#039;t going to make a bit of difference.

This one will be ugly: the subprime mortgage crisis, a major housing slump, stock market shocks, financial instruments devaluations, very high oil prices, extremely low household savings and high debt-service ratios. 

But, I&#039;m always said to be too optimistic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, but I do think that stimulation this summer isn&#8217;t going to make a bit of difference.</p>
<p>This one will be ugly: the subprime mortgage crisis, a major housing slump, stock market shocks, financial instruments devaluations, very high oil prices, extremely low household savings and high debt-service ratios. </p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m always said to be too optimistic!</p>
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		<title>By: captain_menace</title>
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		<dc:creator>captain_menace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, do you believe this will be a quick recession?  I little downturn, and then it&#039;s over?

If so, why do you think this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, do you believe this will be a quick recession?  I little downturn, and then it&#8217;s over?</p>
<p>If so, why do you think this?</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Rear</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O'Rear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the time the money gets into consumers&#039; hands, the recession will be over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the time the money gets into consumers&#8217; hands, the recession will be over.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to compare  &quot;economic stimulus package&quot; to a trip to the massage parlor but decided against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to compare  &#8220;economic stimulus package&#8221; to a trip to the massage parlor but decided against it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quote:
Such stimulus, however, is futile. Government cannot create genuine spending power; the most it can do is to transfer it from Smith to Jones. If the Treasury sends a stimulus check to Jones, the money comes from taxes, from borrowing, or is newly created.

If it comes from taxes, the value of Jones&#039;s stimulus check is offset by the greater taxes paid by Smith, who will then have fewer dollars to spend or invest. If Uncle Sam borrows to pay for the stimulus checks, this borrowing takes money out of the private sector. Any dollars borrowed – whether from foreigners or fellow Americans – for purposes of stimulus would have been spent or invested in other ways were they not loaned to the government.

The only other means of paying for such stimulus is for the Federal Reserve to create new money. Unfortunately, this option leads inevitably to inflation. 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0124/p09s02-coop.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Christian Science Monitor&lt;/a&gt;

Also, even if stimulus works in the short run, we stimulate in bad times but aren&#039;t repaying in good times.  That is when we lose ground.  If we can&#039;t repay during good times we are expanding and increasing the problem, not solving it.</description>
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Such stimulus, however, is futile. Government cannot create genuine spending power; the most it can do is to transfer it from Smith to Jones. If the Treasury sends a stimulus check to Jones, the money comes from taxes, from borrowing, or is newly created.</p>
<p>If it comes from taxes, the value of Jones&#8217;s stimulus check is offset by the greater taxes paid by Smith, who will then have fewer dollars to spend or invest. If Uncle Sam borrows to pay for the stimulus checks, this borrowing takes money out of the private sector. Any dollars borrowed – whether from foreigners or fellow Americans – for purposes of stimulus would have been spent or invested in other ways were they not loaned to the government.</p>
<p>The only other means of paying for such stimulus is for the Federal Reserve to create new money. Unfortunately, this option leads inevitably to inflation.<br />
<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0124/p09s02-coop.html" rel="nofollow">The Christian Science Monitor</a></p>
<p>Also, even if stimulus works in the short run, we stimulate in bad times but aren&#8217;t repaying in good times.  That is when we lose ground.  If we can&#8217;t repay during good times we are expanding and increasing the problem, not solving it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 18:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best definition is desperation.

The U.S. is at risk of economic collapse.  While most believe that we can avoid that, it is only because we have recognized the risk and trends in place and are taking action.

The question now becomes, is it action that will delay the collapse, avoid it entirely or over correct and cause a &quot;bubble&quot; that later will cause pain to those in the &quot;bubble&quot; when it breaks while others that don&#039;t join in that &quot;irrational exuberance&quot; do quite will and may even profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best definition is desperation.</p>
<p>The U.S. is at risk of economic collapse.  While most believe that we can avoid that, it is only because we have recognized the risk and trends in place and are taking action.</p>
<p>The question now becomes, is it action that will delay the collapse, avoid it entirely or over correct and cause a &#8220;bubble&#8221; that later will cause pain to those in the &#8220;bubble&#8221; when it breaks while others that don&#8217;t join in that &#8220;irrational exuberance&#8221; do quite will and may even profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The top 5%, those who pay 90% of the total tax revenue, aren&#039;t getting a dime...meanwhile, those who don&#039;t pay taxes are getting a check.  Calling this a &quot;rebate&quot; is like calling Vietnam a &quot;conflict.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The top 5%, those who pay 90% of the total tax revenue, aren&#8217;t getting a dime&#8230;meanwhile, those who don&#8217;t pay taxes are getting a check.  Calling this a &#8220;rebate&#8221; is like calling Vietnam a &#8220;conflict.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!</p>
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		<title>By: SgtMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>SgtMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 13:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welfare. Pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welfare. Pure and simple.</p>
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