Hey, PeLOOSI, Get a Shovel- and a CLUE!
Stretch Face Pelosi has once again managed to miss the boat and put focus of the “debate” on a tried and failed policy. Dealing with terrorists in the realm of law enforcement, instead of the realm of WAR (which is EXACTLY the terrorists’ stated purpose) is flat out stupid. Yes, STUPID! There is no doubt we, as a nation and a free people, face great issues, great problems, and a great feat ahead. But once again, not only does the proposed solution of Liberal Freaks perpetuate and enhance the problems we face; they also fail to recognize that their approach to the problem of terrorism is exactly what lead to the growth of the problem that allowed the slaughter and attack of 9/11 to occur.
Terrorists are not mere law-breakers. They are militants set on the death and destruction of free societies as a whole. They do not seek peace. They seek war, and they have made no secret about it. Firmly planting your head in the sand, dear Pelosi, achieves nothing but a sunburned hind end. And frankly, I’m not interested. The real “global warming” going on is the Leftist scraping and scrounging for power again adding to the fire on earth known as Islamofascism.
If you have not read Stretch’s remarks from yesterday, grab some duct tape and a bottle of meds (or liquid medication- I suggest Margaritas). You can read the ridiculous ramblings HERE. The woman knows we don’t have any war time agreement with Al Qaeda. She knows the Supreme Court has no basis for claiming that we DO have a treaty with any terrorist organization, yet she insists the Constitution is a suicide pact, and the Supreme Court seems to agree. How she claims that this is a “friendly” relationship with the “Administration” is beyond logic.
Pelosi needs to talk to her FRIENDS (terrorists- better known as America’s sworn enemy) about the “Golden Rule” and stop lecturing the people she is sworn to SERVE. This is not a popularity contest Nancy, it is serious business. It is not a word game, or a slight of hand magic trick with the foundation of our existence known as the Constitution. It is the task of protecting Americans from perpetually ticked-off, murderous, thugs. The loser doesn’t go home with fish sticks instead of filet mignon. The loser will cease to exist. This is the depth of the dedication of the enemy we face. There is but one choice. It is as simple as us or them. They have made that clear.
Many things are up for debate, but when it comes to dealing with terrorists in a way that offers them the safety and the privileges of American citizens, you not only degrade the sacrifiice of our forefathers; but you also mock at the blood they shed in order to assure the rights of future generations of Americans they died for. They believed their very own lives were less important than the vision of the DREAM of AMERICA, and in contrast you can’t get past your self-absorbed stature and quest for power as the most important thing in our world.
You have chosen your side, now reap the storm.
September 28th, 2006 at 3:34 pm
EEE,
It is strange how people under estimate the problems with some of the Muslim population even in our Country. We have around 9 million Muslims in our Country,I wonder what % are outraged by 9/11 ?
September 28th, 2006 at 3:39 pm
John-
That’s “eeevil” to you- LOL!
Great point!
In answer to your question- I would say- “about as many Communists.”
September 28th, 2006 at 4:40 pm
What do you do with the innocent who have been imprisoned? The bill you are talking about allows American citizens to be denied rights.
September 28th, 2006 at 4:50 pm
caroline
those “American citizens” are treasonous militants out to kill you.
but the answer is-
Apparently we give them a free copy of the Koran, a prayer rug, 5 times a day to use those rugs ( our school kids don’t get that), 3 meals a day (better than the ones our soldiers get), and a tropical retreat on a beautiful island…
boo hoo….
September 28th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
caroline,
“The bill you are talking about allows American citizens to be denied rights”.
Please tell me how?
Next,
“What do you do with the innocent who have been imprisoned”
How do you know which are innocent? This is like the gang problem. If you lived in a gang area how would you want the police to act ? I saw on PBS that poor areas are upset over the crack down on Police going after gangs without proper evidence. This is not an easy call.
September 28th, 2006 at 4:53 pm
Wow, so you’re willing to trade all your rights and have our country become a military dictatorship because you want the illusion of security and have a desire for random torture to make yourself feel better? No more screeching about how Sadaam was a bad guy then. We have lost all moral authority.
Even Bush’s own NIE says that the Iraq policy is an abject failure. I guess it’s easier to continue failure than change course.
PS.Your post is really screeching and defensive.
September 28th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
eeevil,
I am sorry for not giving you your proper name.
BTW you forgot to say send them to timeout!!!!
September 28th, 2006 at 4:57 pm
John,
Bush can decide that anyone is an “enemy combatant”. There are no standards for that. There’s a canadian citizen who’s already on record as having been tortured. Lucky for him, he was able to get released.
The habeus will be stripped. Your right to see the evidence against you will be stripped. Your right to a trial will be stripped.
It won’t matter about whether you are innocent or not because you won’t be able to prove your innocence. The whole thing has turned into “well we can’t beat terrorism so we should join them and become just like them.”
September 28th, 2006 at 5:00 pm
Well, I hope you like this policy when Hillary Clinton is President. After all, she’ll get to decide who’s guilty and innocent all by her lonesome. Too bad. I bet that the same people agreeing now will be howling then.
Those who are willing to give up their freedoms for the illusion of security deserve neither-Benjamin Franklin.
September 28th, 2006 at 5:06 pm
caroline,
I think Bob Barr is right we need court oversight of the policies like proper warrents to make sure we have a check and balance.
How do you give a true “enemy combatant” evidence like a CIA agent,informent……??
We have the problem today with gangs and the MOB.
September 28th, 2006 at 5:07 pm
John
LOL!
YOU ROCK!
September 28th, 2006 at 5:12 pm
There is no oversight. That is the problem John. It’s really no different than the set up Sadaam had. Bush can send goons to your house to grab you and whisk you off to the gulag or another country.
Are you really going to trust a bozo like Bush to decide the guilt or innocence of an american citizen? Here’s a guy who couldn’t get anything right when it came to Iraq. The guy’s batting zero.
Why should Timothy McVeigh have been given a trial then? Wouldn’t Bill Clinton have been better off just allowing him to sit in jail without a trial? Remember the howling of “conservatives” about that nut job Koresh? Well, Bush can now do all that he wants and more and to top it all off, it’s now legal? Rape and sodomy? Now legal. Just like Sadaam.
September 28th, 2006 at 5:19 pm
Caroline
John took a more serious approach to your questions.
My initial response was actually-
innocent?
The premise you are proposing is that there are innocent militants?
Are you aware of the process that detaineees (the PC word for terrorist thugs) go through before they are detained?
the chances of an INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZEN being “detained” - let alone tortured are miniscule.. I do mean MINISCULE..
No one is looking for innocent people.
I am not giving up any rights under this bill..NONE…
I don’t weild guns at our troops, I don’t fight against democracy. I don’t fund, teach, or preach terrorism. SO I feel all my liberties are in tact.
The President had the power to protect us against terroist thugs, and USES that power. THANK GOD!
WHo would you like to have that power?
the man ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE to do so? Who would you suggest? The Supreme Court? They don’t have that power- our Constitution is clear on this.
SO- are you against the Constitution? Or just Bush in general?
Or do you think the Supreme Court- (who found a treaty with Al Qeada in our Constitution- along with a right for gov’t to take your land, along with the right to murder innocent life) should be protecting us?
Are you in favor of an Oligarchy?
September 28th, 2006 at 5:21 pm
caroline-
btw- You might want to read the entire UNclassified NIE report before you start using it in a debate…
just a pointer to save you any embarrassment.
September 28th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
Caroline
As for Hillary in power- let me say this…
I don’t want Hillary in power..not because I fear her locking up terrorists….but because I fear her NOT locking them up….
September 28th, 2006 at 5:29 pm
eeevil,
I do question if we are not creating more problems in Iraq at this point then we solved.
September 28th, 2006 at 5:31 pm
caroline,
Hillary was easy on Bill , just kidding !
September 28th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
John
hey- questioning that is fine.
that is the whole purpose of the report.
But we have to remember- despite all the media and propaganda claiming that WE are creating terrorists- the facts show us this is not true.
First- the existed far before we retaliated. As Hamid Karzai pointed out- “do you remember the people jumping from the 79th floor?” They exsited far before we ever bothered to pay attention.
Second- does Al Qaeda use the war in Iraq to recruit- SURE THEY DO! If you and I were them- we would too. It is propoganda- Great propoganda- but the jihad existed way back before the first Iraq War.
The key is multi-faceted. We not only need to chow a crushing defeat to terrorism, but we also need to spread liberty. When one controls their own destiny- or has the freedom to do so- the good will do so. The eeevil will always be eeevil- but hope is the key for all.
when there is hope- there is a way…
liberty and freedom brings hope.
Iraq is the key right now.
Who will win? Hope or Terror?
September 28th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
John
sorry- I need to use spell check! LOL!
September 28th, 2006 at 5:49 pm
John
btw- Do yu know of any American citizens in Gitmo?
I don’t- but I could be wrong….(shhhhhh-don’t tell anyone)
September 28th, 2006 at 6:48 pm
eeevil,
This is my point.
Pat Buchanan challenged our current terrorism strategy in an article last year in his magazine The American Conservative called Why Are They Killing Us.
This is from the article.
“Islamic fundamentalism is not as closely associated with suicide terrorism as many people think,” Pape tells The American Conservative in its July 18 issue. Indeed, the world’s leader in suicide terror was the Tamil Tigers of Sri Lanka. This secular Marxist group “invented the famous suicide vest for their suicide assassination of Rajiv Ghandi in May 1991. The Palestinians got the idea of the vest from the Tamil Tigers.
But if the aim of suicide bombers is not to advance Islamism in a war of civilizations, what is its purpose?
Pape’s conclusion: “[S]uicide-terrorist attacks are not so much driven by religion as by a clear strategic objective: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from the territory that the terrorists view as their homeland. From Lebanon to Sri Lanka to Chechnya to Kashmir to the West Bank, every major suicide terrorist campaign – over 95 percent of all incidents – has had as its central objective to compel a democratic state to withdraw.”
The 9/11 terrorists were over here because we were over there. They are not trying to convert us. They are killing us to drive us out of their countries.
Before the U.S. invasion, says Pape, “Iraq never had a suicide attack in its history. Since our invasion, suicide terrorism has been escalating rapidly, with 20 attacks in 2003, 48 in 2004 and over 50 in just the first five months of 2005. Every year since the U.S. invasion, suicide terrorism has doubled. … Far from making us safer against terrorism, the operation in Iraq has stimulated suicide terrorists and has given suicide terrorism a new lease on life.”
Pape is saying that President Bush has got it backwards: The Iraq war is not eradicating terrorism, it is creating terrorists.
And now the U.S. intelligence analysts say this from the Washington Post.
WASHINGTON - The war in Iraq has become the primary recruitment vehicle for violent Islamic extremists, motivating a new generation of potential terrorists around the world whose numbers are increasing faster than the United States and its allies are eliminating the threat, U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded.
My question is, do we have the right strategy in the Middle East to fight Islamic extremists?
September 28th, 2006 at 7:06 pm
John
We do not create mobsters by locking them up.
Hatred and eeevil exists, weather we like it or not.
The war on us was declared far before 9/11- let alone the invasion into Iraq.
They WANT to fight us.
They WANT to kill us.
They WANT to rule the world in their warped vision of Allah and his pedophile “prophet.”
Attacking Germany after Pealr Harbor did not CREATE more Nazi’s.
This is more a culture war than a religious war- but the TOOL of the enemy is religion.
Iraq was a genius. Not only did we have the lawful and moral right to invade- given Saddam’s actions and his WORDS- but the invasion made the terrorists take note. We will not just sit back and play defense. We will play OFFENSE…
since this move- THEY have been compelled to move out of their caves, and their cells to come out and fight - and we are fighting not in Israel- which would be their first choice of venue- and not in America- but in the heart- the center of the Islamic Fascist lands.
Pat is a die hard AMERICAN- but he misses the the big picture.
The big picture has nothing to do with me- or you..
It has to do with the world as a whole.
Israel is the size of New Jersey- yet the cup of turmoil on earth revolves around this one nation- a nation without Oil- or any great resource to speak of, globally.
I speak loudly and proudly that I would give my life for the land of Isreal and the Jews before I would give it for America.
Not because I do not love and believe in my country….but because if my country can abandon Israel- it can abandon life and liberty itself- and I have not even TOUCHED on the Biblical sense of such a stand– I am staying within the political realm.
Suicide attacks doubled?
wow- just think if we had played Clinton’s game and continued to ignore…
what would we be facing?
All we have done is prompt them to come out in the open- instead of staying hidden in cells to continue their objective. The objective was always there. The propoganda has been preached for decades.
The killers have always planned to kill.
Does Iraq give them propoganda? Of course- I have already addressed this. But ignoring Saddam and his actions would have shown more weakness and allowed MORE growth- but without a clear stand on our side to say- we see you- and we are not sticking our heads in the sand anymore.
September 28th, 2006 at 7:53 pm
eeevil,
This is from Woodward new book on Iraq.
The situation is getting much worse, says Woodward, despite what the White House and the Pentagon are saying in public. “The truth is that the assessment by intelligence experts is that next year, 2007, is going to get worse and, in public, you have the president and you have the Pentagon [saying], ‘Oh, no, things are going to get better,’” he tells Wallace. “Now there’s public, and then there’s private. But what did they do with the private? They stamp it secret. No one is supposed to know,” says Woodward.
“The insurgents know what they are doing. They know the level of violence and how effective they are. Who doesn’t know? The American public,” Woodward tells Wallace.
September 28th, 2006 at 7:55 pm
Innocent militants? Well there have been people who have been released. Do you think terrorists were released?
The entire NIE has not been released and the parts that have been released ARE NOT favorable.
If you want to wet the bed every time Bush says “ooga booga” then that’s your right. I refuse to become a cowering bed wetter.
The NIE says that Iraq is creating terrorists faster than we can fight them.
Why is Osama running around? He has training camps in Pakistan that no one seems to be concerned about.
If police work is so bad, then why was Bush celebrating the capture of the guys in Great Brittain. It was all police work that one. Shouldn’t you have been condemning the policemen for capturing the potential terrorists?
September 28th, 2006 at 8:06 pm
You think Iraq was genius? A policy that’s creating a failed terrorist state? Boy, I got some ocean front property in AZ for you.
Hey if Iraq is so important then why aren’t there enough troops in the country? Why did Rumsfield not even have a plan to keep the peace? He wouldn’t hear of post war planning. Without a doubt, Rumsfield in a collossal failure.
September 28th, 2006 at 9:50 pm
Carolina
Do I think terrorists were released- uh- YES….in fact some of them have already been re-captured.
You need to read the entire NIE report, not just pull out pieces convenient for your world view.
Osama is not “running around.”
He is actually hiding- unlike when the Dems were in power and dealing with terrorism as a law enforecement issue. That is when he was running around and no one would touch him.
Uh- A lot of people are concerned about training camps, but see- the propoganda of Bush being a cowboy and invading countries with kids flying kites and all- kinda puts a damper on our efforts to get him.
Pakistan has not offered him up to us- like Clinton had him offered up.
The police work in Great Britain that lead to stopping the planned terror attacks would not be allowed here in the US. Yup- that’s right. The Dems have issues with the Patriot Act.. You need to learn more about how Britain actually was able to catch these guys. In fact the bill you seem so determined to defend would not allow us to stop such an attack.
Yes- Iraq is genuis. You seem to be ignoring the reports out there where Al Qaeda has admitted they are weak and losing in Iraq, and they are banking their entire future on their success in Iraq.
Put down the New York Slimes and do some research.
The plan for peace is VICTORY- and that is a KERRY quote. Rumsfeld is trying to re- build the structure that Clinton took 8 years to defund and destroy.
We are only now reaching the standard of intelligence abilities we had before Clinton took office.
Letting the Dems back in power would be the worst mistake ever made by this country…. yes– worse than even ignoring Hitler for so long.
I sincerely suggest you do some actual research and homework instead of repeating Dem talking points.
You seem to truly and sincerely care about this issue- so it should be worthy of your time to look at the FACTS and not the sound bites of the Drive By Media…
Peace!
September 28th, 2006 at 10:00 pm
John-
The “insurgents” are weak and they know it…
they are losing ground and power and QUICKLY….
Woodward can write whatever he wants…
(yawn)
September 28th, 2006 at 10:07 pm
You consider him running terrorist training camps in Pakistan a good thing? Do you think that’s hiding? Heck, 2 months after 9/11 the CIA had him in their sites with him having a grand ole time. I do agree that’s Bush’s ideology has damaged the possiblity of capturing Osama. Uh, you have got your stories wrong. Pakistan NEVER offered Osama to Clinton, it was supposedly Syria but it was made up by some nut. I know it’s easier to focus on stuff that went on 10 years ago than focus on the failures of the last 5 years. Osama running around 5 years after he masterminded a plan that killed several thousand of our citizens is okay with you apparently. Heck, Pakistan has offered him amnesty. How is he any less free now than he was before 9/11?
The capture of those suspects in Great Brittain was down lawfully and with LEGAL wiretaps and good old fashioned police work.
Talking points? LOL! You are doing nothing but sounding like a Bush apologist. It’s alway’s someone else’s fault isn’t it? Bush is never responsible! LOL! He’s a massive failure but you see him as a success. Apparently, you belong to that 1/3 of the country that sees him as Jesus.
You need to get out more. Free Republic doesn’t hold truths, only Bush propaganda.
If you want to surrender to a military dictatorship, then go right ahead. If you want to surrender all your freedoms then go right ahead. If you want to be a bed wetting conservative, then go ahead. If you want to respond to lowest common denominator emotional appeals like pavlov’s dogs, then be my guest. Just leave me out of it. I believe in freedom. Obviously, you believe in slavery to the bush machine.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
What is the definition of victory? Bush has never defined it other than with slogans.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
carolina
WHAT?
Where did I say that Osama running terrorist camps is a good thing?
WHERE?
Not to mention that I reject the premise that he IS running terror camps. The man is not running anything. He is HIDING!
May I kindly suggest you put down the koolaid and try a Margarita?
Surrender to a military dictatorship? That is exactly what the terrorists are seeking. Not Bush.
Trust me- I have serious issues with President Bush- but none of those issues are are concern over him acting like a dictator- LOL!
You claim concern over training camps in Pakistan- as if Bush is supposed to invade another country for these camps, yet you insist invading Iraq was wrong? oy!
If Bush were a dictator- we would have invaded Pakistan a long time ago…
Which one is it?
Was Iraq a happy place with kids flying kites and a friend to us against terrorists? Is Pakistand the BIG threat now? WOW!
What do YOU suggest?
I would LOVE to know.
and Bush Jesus?
LOL! No- not quite.
in fact- I think Bush is a flaming Lib.
There are only two issues I support Bush on- The War on terror is one of those, because NO ONE else has had the temerity to deal with the reality of it- not even in words let alone in action.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:19 pm
Here’s one example of how Iraq is being managed:
$75 million project to build the largest police academy in Iraq has been so grossly mismanaged that the campus now poses health risks to recruits and might need to be partially demolished, U.S. investigators have found.
The Baghdad Police College, hailed as crucial to U.S. efforts to prepare Iraqis to take control of the country’s security, was so poorly constructed that feces and urine rained from the ceilings in student barracks. Floors heaved inches off the ground and cracked apart. Water dripped so profusely in one room that it was dubbed “the rain forest.”
“This is the most essential civil security project in the country—and it’s a failure,” said Stuart W. Bowen Jr., the special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction, an independent office created by Congress. “The Baghdad police academy is a disaster.”
Bowen’s office plans to release a 21-page report Thursday detailing the most alarming problems with the facility.
Even in a $21 billion reconstruction effort that has been marred by cases of corruption and fraud, failures in training and housing Iraq’s security forces are particularly significant because of their effect on what the U.S. military has called its primary mission here: to prepare Iraqi police and soldiers so that Americans can depart.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:21 pm
Nope, he is running terror training camps in Pakistan. It’s were those British guys went to get terror training. Quit listening to talk radio. Get out more and read everything that’s out there. You’ll learn a lot.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Hon, there were no terror training camps in Iraq until we knocked off sadaam. That’s when anarchy became the name of the game and the terrorist started to gain a foothold.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
carolina
LOL!
c’mon- I take it you like the Oil for Food scandal better?
I take it you like terrorists weeking shelter in Iraq better?
Where would you like us to be fighting the jihadis?
HERE?
September 28th, 2006 at 10:25 pm
Hon, put down the koolaid. Bush is NO liberal. Bush is a conservative thru and thru. Terri Schiavo? conservative. Spending lots of money? conservative. General ineptitude? I didn’t previously think this was a conservative value but I have been proven wrong time and again on this one.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:32 pm
We’ve got enough jihadists in this country already. Your current GOP writes a lot of legislation that would make the mullahs and ayatollahs very happy. We have to fight the religious fundamentalists here too.
Bush has turned Iraq into a magnet for terrorists. While he has been doing that, the taliban has been gaining strength in Afghanistan. Even the President of Afghanistan had hard words for Bush on his failure to live up to his promises there.
It would be nice if Bush would actually go after the known terrorist camps instead of flailing around widly everywhere else.
Oh, BTW, did you think it was a strong national security idea to try to hand over our port security to the friends of Osama? Bush was mad that congress disobeyed him that one time.
Ooga booga, they’ll come here. Well, LBJ said that same thing in the 1960’s and Reagan said the same thing in the 80’s w/r/t issues in central america. Don’t you think that the phrase is getting a little shopworn?
September 28th, 2006 at 10:37 pm
oh carolina
Do you recall the airplane shell in Iraq?
carolina- the war is on. WE did not declare it. WE did not start it.
They have a deep deep desire to destroy us. Nothing you say or do will change this.
It has been taught to them for decades. I so wish we could help. I so wish there were some way to let them know that all we really want for them is freedom and liberty….
but they will not hear, the will not believe.
Saddam was a monster. I am PROUD we put him behind bars.
I am PROUD that America continues to free people across the globe. So many yearn for it, but do not have the strength, yet we do. And we are willing to aid them.
The world changed on 911.
Just defending our homeland was no longer an option. I revel in the spirit of my forefathers to not sit back on our heals and await attacks against innocents.
If killing terroists creates terrorists… if spreading freedom and liberty creates terrorists, then by golly- I will do all in my power to create more terrorists.
September 28th, 2006 at 10:38 pm
carolina
just so you know- it is not MY GOP…
LOL!
I am not a Republican…
I am a conservative…
BIG difference..
September 28th, 2006 at 10:40 pm
carolina
Bush made Iraq into a magnet for terrorists..
BINGO! This is a good thing…
not sure if you realize this- but WE were the magnet, or target before that….
September 29th, 2006 at 5:28 am
Balsa wood plane? LOL Wow ROTHLMAO!
We send our soldiers to die in Iraq so they could elect an Islamic theocracy. Now Iran is pretty much running things. It’s a wholy mess over there. I have a family member who went and said the whole war is stupid.
If you think that Iraq is so important then I don’t know why you aren’t kicking W’s sorry butt from here to timbuktu. Instead you are making excuses for him.
PS. You have continually gotten my name wrong.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:19 am
eeevil,
The truth is they are having a civil war between Shiites and Sunnies that could spread all over the Middle East.
The U.S. made a huge mistake when they kick out eveybody from the Bath sp party for police……
If Atlanta was taken over and
we let go of the police,fire…. all on the same day, what do you think would happen?
That is why John McCain and others were sreaming we needes more troops.
September 29th, 2006 at 7:59 am
John
I disagree. STRONGLY disagree.
First of all, the “civil” war is limited to certain areas, it is not even close to the entire country.
The Sunni and Shiite have been at war with each other forever. Do you know why? The same reason the Muslims are at war with Israel. It is all about which brother is the true heir. yeah- can you believe it.
Under Saddam, the violence was just once sided and carried out quietly. We really need to stop blaming ourselves for the way the people in the Middle East behave.
If you wiped out the police force in Atlanta- would you have crime? sure. But you would not have civil war. You won’t find me defending every move made on handling things in Iraq. No way.
But invading Iraq was the right thing to do. And you will not find me looking to McCain or Pat for any answers.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:55 am
John,
Here’s the deal. Some people fear accountability. Right now there is not accountability. Is Bill Frist running the operation in Iraq? No. Is Boehner running the operation in Iraq? No. It’s all about fear of accountability. Republicans don’t want to talk about why we are dumping 2 billion dollars per week into Iraq when what we are getting is buildings that leak urine and feces. Why are soldiers being giving erroneous maps by KBR that are doing nothing but leading them into ambushes? These are questions that will have to be answered if Dems take over congress and it scares the devil out of Republicans.
Saying W is not a conservative is a tacit admission that he is a failure. If he was a success then people would be yelling from the rooftops that “HE’S A CONSERVATIVE!” But they are denying that so there you go.
Memo to Pelosi: Don’t bother to defend Bush from attacks anymore. He’ll use anything you do to help him against you.
September 29th, 2006 at 6:30 pm
Caroline,
These people are not American Citizens and therefore they are protected under the American Constitution. Also they want to kill us, reason cause they are evil.. Why don’t people like you and Pelosi get it???
September 29th, 2006 at 7:33 pm
The new law doesn’t exempt American citizens. American citizens can be treated as enemy combatants as to be determined by Bush. You should really bone up on your information.
September 29th, 2006 at 8:08 pm
eeevil,
This was from the BBC.
Iraq in civil war, says former PM
Sunni and Shia factions have been in violent clashes
Iraq is in the middle of civil war, the country’s former interim prime minister Iyad Allawi has told the BBC.
He said Iraq had not got to the point of no return, but if it fell apart sectarianism would spread abroad.
From Z facts
The Factions
There are five or six main sides to the Iraqi civil war besides the US and official Iraqi forces, both of which wish to stop it.
• The al-Qaeda insurgents — Led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, these are mainly Sunni Muslims linked to Tawhid and Jihad. (Training camp details)
• The Saddamist insurgents — Their focus is both anti-US and anti-Shiite, but they apparently disagree with al-Qaeda’s attacks on Shiite religious events and symbols and are now even killing some top al-Qaeda figures.
• The Badr Organization — The armed wing of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), supported by Iran. Supports Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani.
• The Mahdi Army — The milia force of Moqtada al-Sadr, the Shiite cleric for the poor section of Baghdad.
• The Iraqi government — The National Guard is under Sunni influence, and the militia of the Interior ministry is influenced by Shiites.
September 30th, 2006 at 6:10 am
John Konop,
What do you think about the coup attempt? News seems to be rolling in about exactly who attempted it.
September 30th, 2006 at 7:32 am
caroline,
I posted the Foley story !!! Check it out !!
September 30th, 2006 at 7:44 am
Caroline please give me links about this. I would like to set you up to post. Plaese e-mail steve@johnkonop.com and tell him to set you up !!!
September 30th, 2006 at 8:23 am
Okay, John
I’ll try to email him later today. I’ll give you fair warning though, I have posting priviledges at another blog and have yet to use them!
September 30th, 2006 at 9:05 am
caroline,
No problem, you find very interesting topics and you do your homework !!!!
THANKS JK