Huckabee 28% Romney 25%
President Huckabee?
R-The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the Iowa caucus finds former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee with 28% of the vote, former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney with 25% support, and everyone else far behind. National frontrunner Rudy Giuliani gets just 12% of the vote in Iowa at this time while former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson is the only other candidate in double digits at 11%
I say that Fred will become more and more attractive to conservative voters. Mitt has lost his luster because he too often says what he thinks he should, instead of what he believes. From my perspective, Huckabee does the same thing qute often.
What I like about Thompson is how he says what his positions are (and I agree with his ideas) not what he thinks your positions are. I get the feeling that if you don’t agree with him on a certain subject, he won’t fish and flop to make it sound like he does.
The Tavis Smiley/Morgantown State debate might have given Huckabee the spotlight he needed, but it only served to eliminate him from consideration in my book.
That’s pretty funny. I think Kusinich could beat Huckabee in a general election.
Nationally, fundamentalism is dead (though perhaps not in the GOP).
Lefthook,
Huckabee is ahead of Hillary!
JohnKonop: Who isn’t ahead of Hillary?!?!
John,
The only poll that says that is Zogby international online. We’ve already discussed how that poll has been off up to 29%.
http://www.presidentelectionpolls.com/
Did you see this? GOP in danger of losing Indiana. 71% disapprove of the Bush agenda.
If you support — (from email just sent by Huckabee seeking money, money, money) — “The FairTax, the Human Life Amendment, secure borders, transforming education and encouraging the arts in schools, real enforcement of existing immigration laws on employers are things we have been fighting for since we began this campaign” — then Tax Hike Mike is your guy ($500M+ on the backs of Arkansas taxpayers in 8 years, imagine what he will do on a federal level with a dem congress).
Damn Chuck Norris.
Lefthook
I think Caroline is still for her!
Caroline
Face it Hillary is falling down hard!
John,
I’m debating with some facts and numbers.
Bart
Who do you like better Ron Paul or Mike Huckabee?
caroline
The Zogby polll was the latest and it is the poll Hillary uses!
John,
Just because that’s what you want to happen doesn’t mean it’s going to happen. You keep quoting a poll that was off in 2006 by 29 pts as your source? She may not win the primary but that’s not what the facts are showing now.
John,
You are confusing the internet poll with the telephone poll. They are two separate polls. And the internet poll, fyi, is the one who has a history of being way off. Do you understand the difference?
Caroline
If it is such a bad poll was does Hillary use it as her main data?
Caroline
No John Zogby was clear the method he used was what Hillary buys from him for her main polling!
John,
Do you understand there are two separate polls by Zogby?
Yes I do but Zogby was clear the one that shows Hillary falling down is the method she buys from him for her data!
John,
He may use the same methodology for both polls but the sampling on the interactive polls are wrong. For example, telephone polls are of random voters whereas the internet polls, poll only those people who signed up to participate and are not random.
Do you understand now?
caroline
It is the method that Hillary pays for do you understand that?
John,
You can’t get a good poll with a flawed sample. Do you realize that? Even if its good methodology if your sample is flawed then your poll is wothless.
What if someone only polled black people on their approval rating of Bush? It would be about 2% right? You could use the methodology but the poll would still be flawed w/r/t Bush’s approval rating because the sample wasn’t representative of the entire public.
Do you understand now?
Caroline
The big issue you should ask yourself is why was Hillary the only front runner Democrat in that poll falling behind the GOP?
John,
That’s an easy question to answer. If you look at a poll on a blog (where the internet crowd hangs out) Hillary polls almost last. She isn’t popular with the internet crowd. She’s kind of the anti-Dean in this respect. If you had an internet poll on Dean 4 years ago, he would have been winning it all but the telephone polls would have something different. Putting all your hope into the internet crowd really isn’t worth it. It’s just a small section of the party.
My experience has been that Hillary is very popular with the non internet savvy crowd kind of like Edwards is very popular with the unionists. It’s just the way it goes. We’ll see whether it’s enough to win the primary or not.
Caroline
You are saying Hillary has low support with educated young peope?
John,
Nope. I’m saying the internet crowd. You’re implying that everybody on the internet who’s politically active is young. It’s not true.
“They are two separate polls. And the internet poll, fyi, is the one who has a history of being way off. Do you understand the difference?”
Caroline
Of course these are going to be different. And the “internet crowd” is usually “ahead of the curve” so to speak although not the “final word”. But “establishment types” will sometimes look askance at the “internet crowd”, especially when their numbers go south.
Well Bill,
If the internet crowd is “way ahead” then why wasn’t Dean the Dem nominee in 2004? The internet crowd is just the internet crowd nothing more.
Caroline
Not “way ahead” but still “ahead”. But I don’t think anybody could predict the “screech heard round the world”. That sounded like some dinosaur or something.
Caroline
Not “way ahead” but still “ahead” and maybe “skewed” against the establishment. But I don’t think anybody could predict the “screech heard round the world”. That sounded like some kind of dinosaur.
Yes, but Dean’s campaign was faltering before the scream. Joe Trippi later said that he knew Dean wasn’t going to win in IA in Dec of 2003. The scream was after the IA caucus. Dean’s problem was that he couldn’t expand past the internet crowd. Like I said, the internet crowd is just the internet crowd. It’s not any more or less important than any other group that forms a coaltion. The problem is that the internet crowd thinks they are the only ones that matter.
Caroline
For some people it was a deal breaker. It was scary.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y969U-ELtCU
Bill
LOL
LOL. But like I said, Dean had already lost when the scream happened.