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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/is-voter-id-law-racist/comment-page-1#comment-1953</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam

I do not know how it does fall into racism.

Yet members of both Parties that are for open borders play that card all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam</p>
<p>I do not know how it does fall into racism.</p>
<p>Yet members of both Parties that are for open borders play that card all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Fogle</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/is-voter-id-law-racist/comment-page-1#comment-1952</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Fogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That is why I ask the question can you support voter I.D. and be for immigration reform and not be a racist?&quot;

And I ask: how do you define racist?

If you go with a liberal definition, then you mean basically anyone who challenges a member of a minority, in which case, it&#039;s impossible not to be a racist when it comes to pretty much anything.

If you are applying a more meaningful definition however, something along the lines of &quot;discrimination based SOLELY on race or ethnicity,&quot; then it&#039;s certainly not racism to support voter I.D. and immigration reform.

Assuming your answer will be the latter definition, and anticipating that you will then point out - sans any evidence - that anti-immigration laws are somehow a practice in &quot;racism,&quot; I thus ask you the following:

How does immigration reform falls into the previously defined category of &quot;racism?&quot;  You&#039;re trying to ask, &quot;how doesn&#039;t it?&quot;  But you&#039;re asking the wrong question.  I want to know &quot;how does it?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That is why I ask the question can you support voter I.D. and be for immigration reform and not be a racist?&#8221;</p>
<p>And I ask: how do you define racist?</p>
<p>If you go with a liberal definition, then you mean basically anyone who challenges a member of a minority, in which case, it&#8217;s impossible not to be a racist when it comes to pretty much anything.</p>
<p>If you are applying a more meaningful definition however, something along the lines of &#8220;discrimination based SOLELY on race or ethnicity,&#8221; then it&#8217;s certainly not racism to support voter I.D. and immigration reform.</p>
<p>Assuming your answer will be the latter definition, and anticipating that you will then point out &#8211; sans any evidence &#8211; that anti-immigration laws are somehow a practice in &#8220;racism,&#8221; I thus ask you the following:</p>
<p>How does immigration reform falls into the previously defined category of &#8220;racism?&#8221;  You&#8217;re trying to ask, &#8220;how doesn&#8217;t it?&#8221;  But you&#8217;re asking the wrong question.  I want to know &#8220;how does it?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam

I am not sure what you are asking?

All I know is I am for immigration reform and a voter I.D. bill

I have been called racist from Republicans and Democrats because I pointed out the problems with regarding illegal immigration.

I find that people who have no argument pull out the race card fast. That is why I ask the question can you support voter I.D. and be for immigration reform and not be a racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam</p>
<p>I am not sure what you are asking?</p>
<p>All I know is I am for immigration reform and a voter I.D. bill</p>
<p>I have been called racist from Republicans and Democrats because I pointed out the problems with regarding illegal immigration.</p>
<p>I find that people who have no argument pull out the race card fast. That is why I ask the question can you support voter I.D. and be for immigration reform and not be a racist?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Fogle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Fogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Konop,

First, you need to define &quot;racism.&quot;  In the 21st century, we have come to apply that word to a plethora of warrant-less situations.

The word has been employed so many times that it has, unfortunately, attained a rather trite and ambiguous status.  It is the epitome of a &quot;crying wolf&quot; situation.

And that is sad because there are many situations where racism truly does apply and individuals really are discriminated against based on race.  But the talking heads tend to instantly reach for the card in any situation where a minority was challenged.

That said, I&#039;ve yet to see you make a clear link between your yet-undefined cries of &quot;racism&quot; and the issue of immigration.

I&#039;ll be waiting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Konop,</p>
<p>First, you need to define &#8220;racism.&#8221;  In the 21st century, we have come to apply that word to a plethora of warrant-less situations.</p>
<p>The word has been employed so many times that it has, unfortunately, attained a rather trite and ambiguous status.  It is the epitome of a &#8220;crying wolf&#8221; situation.</p>
<p>And that is sad because there are many situations where racism truly does apply and individuals really are discriminated against based on race.  But the talking heads tend to instantly reach for the card in any situation where a minority was challenged.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;ve yet to see you make a clear link between your yet-undefined cries of &#8220;racism&#8221; and the issue of immigration.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be waiting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mad Dog

Can you be for immigration reform and voter I.D. and not be a racist?</description>
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<p>Can you be for immigration reform and voter I.D. and not be a racist?</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

I&#039;m glad you welcomed Adam to the site. I saw the typo right away, but dang it, I missed out on correcting you in public!

Clearly, without the verb, are, that&#039;s not a sentence or a question.

I excuse your internet dyslexic condition. However, I find Adam to be (well named) a creation of his environment and genetics.

In other words, a human being that makes mistakes.

Welcome, Adam, to the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you welcomed Adam to the site. I saw the typo right away, but dang it, I missed out on correcting you in public!</p>
<p>Clearly, without the verb, are, that&#8217;s not a sentence or a question.</p>
<p>I excuse your internet dyslexic condition. However, I find Adam to be (well named) a creation of his environment and genetics.</p>
<p>In other words, a human being that makes mistakes.</p>
<p>Welcome, Adam, to the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam 

I think you are confused my reply was the bottom part to the above comment.

Are Black people using the race card when they complain about illegal immigrants voting in the L.A. Mayor race? Was Caesar Chavez a racist when he said immigration was a tool to drive wages down? Was MLK successor Robert Abernathy &amp; Walter Mondale and the Chavez brothers’ racist when they had demonstrations to block the borders? Would you call Caesar and Manuel Chavez vigilantes for running a Minuteman project to stop illegal immigrants from crossing our borders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam </p>
<p>I think you are confused my reply was the bottom part to the above comment.</p>
<p>Are Black people using the race card when they complain about illegal immigrants voting in the L.A. Mayor race? Was Caesar Chavez a racist when he said immigration was a tool to drive wages down? Was MLK successor Robert Abernathy &#038; Walter Mondale and the Chavez brothers’ racist when they had demonstrations to block the borders? Would you call Caesar and Manuel Chavez vigilantes for running a Minuteman project to stop illegal immigrants from crossing our borders?</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/is-voter-id-law-racist/comment-page-1#comment-1941</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

First, welcome to the Web Site!

That was a typo. I meant to put are and you will see I made the change. I am sorry if I offended anyone but I am dyslexic.

Why not answer the question can one be for immigration reform and voter I.D. Bill and not be racist? 

And should a vote be cheaper via requirements than a used video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>First, welcome to the Web Site!</p>
<p>That was a typo. I meant to put are and you will see I made the change. I am sorry if I offended anyone but I am dyslexic.</p>
<p>Why not answer the question can one be for immigration reform and voter I.D. Bill and not be racist? </p>
<p>And should a vote be cheaper via requirements than a used video?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Fogle</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/is-voter-id-law-racist/comment-page-1#comment-1940</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Fogle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the worst post I&#039;ve seen online in a while.  First of all, immigration has nothing to do with the civil rights movement and moreover, you&#039;re just using it as a red herring to cover the fact that Dems ALWAYS play the freaking race card.  I can&#039;t even believe you would lead a post with a clear ad hominem &quot;attack.&quot;  Get a clue.

Beyond that, you have got to be so far beyond the lefty-loon line to believe that this advertisement could be justifiably &quot;right.&quot;  Honestly.

&quot;This piece works because it&#039;s true?&quot;  Seriously?  You must be out of your freaking mind. It is race-baiting fear-mongering garbage.  Linking any actions of Governor Purdue to the atrocities committed against blacks during the Civil Rights era is not only wrong, but it&#039;s libelous.  It&#039;s sickening.

As far as these &quot;rampant voter suppressions,&quot; I would love to see your evidence.  And please refrain from using Cynthia McKinney quotes.

And lastly, this: &quot;Our Black people using the race card when they complain about illegal immigrants voting in the L.A. Mayor race?&quot;  Sounds like &quot;racism&quot; to call them &quot;your black people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the worst post I&#8217;ve seen online in a while.  First of all, immigration has nothing to do with the civil rights movement and moreover, you&#8217;re just using it as a red herring to cover the fact that Dems ALWAYS play the freaking race card.  I can&#8217;t even believe you would lead a post with a clear ad hominem &#8220;attack.&#8221;  Get a clue.</p>
<p>Beyond that, you have got to be so far beyond the lefty-loon line to believe that this advertisement could be justifiably &#8220;right.&#8221;  Honestly.</p>
<p>&#8220;This piece works because it&#8217;s true?&#8221;  Seriously?  You must be out of your freaking mind. It is race-baiting fear-mongering garbage.  Linking any actions of Governor Purdue to the atrocities committed against blacks during the Civil Rights era is not only wrong, but it&#8217;s libelous.  It&#8217;s sickening.</p>
<p>As far as these &#8220;rampant voter suppressions,&#8221; I would love to see your evidence.  And please refrain from using Cynthia McKinney quotes.</p>
<p>And lastly, this: &#8220;Our Black people using the race card when they complain about illegal immigrants voting in the L.A. Mayor race?&#8221;  Sounds like &#8220;racism&#8221; to call them &#8220;your black people.&#8221;</p>
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