More on the Illegal Immigration bill – a focus on the electronic database to verify legal employees. Big Brother is getting bigger, but not more effective. This will put more Americans at risk at identity theft.
Bait-and-Switch Immigration Enforcement
Saturday , May 26, 2007
By James Jay Carafano
ADVERTISEMENTThe Senate’s draft omnibus bill on immigration reform and border security is what the military might call a “target-rich environment.” There are so many bad provisions that it’s difficult to determine which is the worst.
One top contender, though, is that the bill would establish a massive, electronic database that would require every American to check in with Washington before taking a job.
This must rank as one of the most inefficient, ineffective, expensive, unnecessary and dangerous proposals lawmakers have ever come up with.
In a sense, they’re engaging in the oldest con in the world — promising us something too good to be true.
You see, the draft immigration law offers a “silver bullet” to ensure that people who have entered or remain in the U.S. illegally cannot get a job.
It would require the Department of Homeland Security to build a national electronic system that every employer in the United States would have to use to verify that any person they hire is entitled to get a job. Yet Congress already knows this idea is unlikely to work.
That’s because the Department of Homeland Security already has an electronic worker verification system. It is called Basic Pilot, and a decade of experience with the program illustrates why trying to shoehorn every employer into an electronic verification system is a really bad idea.
God I love links to Fox news.
O’Reilly on the Malmedy Massacre
You’re always sure to get the true and accurate story.
As good Americans why don’t we all just agree to get chips implanted so that we can easily be discerned from the scourge of the earth (otherwise known as immigrants)?
The chips could be inserted under the skin and wirelessly connected into a central database that tracked our every move via a network of GPS enabled satellites. I think we could build this program for just under $1 trillion.
Just think, we could do away with passports! Oh hooray!
I’m sure the chips are coming.
Is the article inaccurate, misleading? If so, enlighten me, if not, then you are just bashing a news source you don’t like.
Yes, I am bashing a news source I dislike. Fox News is more entertainment than news. If I want entertainment then Fox isn’t so bad.
The article says “we need immigration reform”. What’s the first step? Hire 150,000 border agents? Build a 50 foot fence from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific? Shoot anyone who looks Mexican? Bitch about immigration on blogs?
Enquiring minds want to know.
From what I understand, the SS cards and other government issued IDs in the immigration bill are supposed to be “tamper-proof” utilizing “biometric” (i.e. fingerprinting) data. I believe we are kidding ourselves if we think we can usher in this huge immigration bill without mandating this sort of ID. Maybe it should be specifically for these ZVisas should (God forbid) this legislation gets passed. And, mandatory photo Voter ID should be the law of the land should this immigration bill become law.
Captain, I find Fox News is more balanced than other news. I know you won’t agree with that.
More border patrol is needed, a fence is not. Technology would be a good supporting tool. Bitching does not accomplish anything.
Hoads, nothing is tamper proof, unless you can put a chip into someone that links the DNA and a national ID.
I do think there should be a voter ID, and it won’t be 100% perfect.
I also think we need biometric data on the people who do step forward to get the Z Visas.
preussow
What’s your cost/benefit analysis of biometric implants, national i.d., cameras, ect… vs. a border fence?
And Can you not see the inherent dangers in the former?
The only people who should be fingerprinted are lawbreakers. And fingerprints work just fine. Heeey, don’t we already have that? Of course this is old technology. Not something new. The problem with old technology is fewer opportunities for corporate boondoggles, no bid contracts, and all the evil which encompasses this crud.
And where the hell are all the “Christian conservatives” on this implant subject?? Personally I’ll never accept an implant. Didn’t Pat Robertson give the “go ahead” on biometric i.d. technology? Just one more reason I’m not associated with these folks.
Bill, a fence is useless. I’ve climbed over many fences in my younger days and do so today when they are in the way.
My comment on biometrics basically says it is not practical. That any form of ID can be faked.
Cameras, drone plans and more border patrol I think would be more effective.
Bill, people who want in this country should not only have their picture taken, finger printed, and a DNA sample taken is not a bad thing.
Can’t remember the last time I read about “we got you just on your finger prints”.
Seems like the law is getting people out of jail based on “your DNA did not match”.
In any case, I do think both are beneficial to gather. An we are talking about people who want to enter the US, not people who live here legally.
And Bill, lastly, even an implanted chip would get compromised by anyone who wanted to get into this country without being known, which was my point of ID documentation can always be faked.
preussow
Fences are great things. If they didn’t work why do so many people have them? You got any fences at your house? In fact you might say this country was built with fences.
“Good fences make good neighbors”. We’ve got fences everywhere. Military bases, junkyards, power stations, you name it, there’s a fence.
I almost forgot zoos, kennels, interstate highways, stadiums, neighborhoods, apartment complexes. There’s no way I’m playing along with this one. This is a clear cut case of willing ineptitude. And the solutions are draconian measures.
Glad you did not forget your last thoughts.
My feelings are fences are worthless in terms of keeping people out when they want in.
I never met a fence I could not get over, even those with barb wire.
Having a patrol and other security measures may have changed my thoughts on getting over it.
…farms, small gardens, construction sites, in fact we’ve got millions of miles of fence. The only glaring example that I can think of where we don’t have one and we need one is on the border between the United States and Mexico. The only downside I see is it can interrupt animal migration. So I suppose you would need open sections where electronic surveillance would be utilized. And have you ever climbed a fence with constantine wire along the top?
http://www.alamofence.com/p143.htm
Fences are good to keep things in that can not break out and to let the neighbors know, stay out. They are not good at stopping someone who wants to get in, for what ever reason.
Yes, animal access to the water is an issue.
I’ve climbed fences with barbed wire, know you can throw something over a wire, know you can cut wire, know that you can make a hole in the fence, and last, but not least, tunnel under a fence.
OK then
No more fences anywhere. There should be a law or something.
Bill, do you really think fences will stop people?
There is a law, fund it to pay for people and technology to assist them.
Don’t even need a new bill that both sides are upset with.