Murtha: Dems could impeach
Do you think Democratic Lawmakers would have enough votes to impeach Bush?
Politico-Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) said Sunday that Democrats in Congress could consider impeachment as a way to pressure President Bush on his handling of the war in Iraq.
“What I’m saying, there’s four ways to influence a president. And one of them’s impeachment,” Murtha, chairman of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
April 30th, 2007 at 7:39 am
I wish they would shut up and just do it. All you hear are veiled threats, “we could do this” or “we should do that” and it’s tiring. Stop talking about it, and do it already so we can move on and maybe get this country back to some resemblance of the America I used to know.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:06 am
On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:26 am
Bart
That has always been my question.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:24 am
Won’t be too hard to come up with something. After all, the Republicans have the standard so low now that you can just make up something and do an impeachment.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:43 am
caroline
Are saying Monica was a made up story? I did not agree we should of impeach him but I do think what Clinton did was wrong bottom line.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:48 am
“On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.”
You’re kidding right?
April 30th, 2007 at 11:51 am
I never said what Clinton did was right but was it impeachable? According to the GOP, all you need for an impeachment is hatred. After all, the GOP wanted to put wearing a tie as obstruction of justice in the articles of impeachment against Clinton. This is why the GOP couldn’t get the American people to go along-they sounded completely hysterical and like a bunch of peeping toms.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:53 am
One thing that he could be impeached on is spying on Americans. Failure to get approval for wiretapping. That all falls under the category of a crime.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:55 am
No, not kidding. Dems screamed about Clinton being impeached on trumped up charges. Is Murtha planning to hypocritically do the same now that he is in charge?
Impeaching President Bush would be the best thing that could happen to a frayed GOP right now. Especially if it is done based on BS charges from wackjobs like Dennis Kucinich and Murtha. Go for it Ds, solidify Republicans for ‘08.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:00 pm
Gimmie
What is the charge?
April 30th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
John,
Here’s one:violation of the fisa act.
April 30th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
The dems are just a bunch of children looking for attention.”Look at me mommy.” “See what I can do daddy.”
April 30th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
I think you have Dems and Republicans confused. It would seem that the Republicans have a toddler at the helm.
April 30th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
And what would you call Hillary?
April 30th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
What is the charge? Is this an episode of the Twilight Zone?
Ohio elections, Iraq war, wiretapping, rendition and torture, Katrina, I feel like the list could go on and on. This administration is destroying our nation. I would think one of the numerous gross offenses they have committed would justify impeachment.
April 30th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Hillary is not a baby. Has she laid down and had a temper tantrum like Jr.?
Do you think Bush Jr. deserves another term?
April 30th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
NO
April 30th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
bb
Adolph Hitler wasn’t impeached either. And it’s because of people who went along with the B.S.!!!!!
April 30th, 2007 at 11:31 pm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/impeacharticles.html
April 30th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/12/22/impeach/index.html
April 30th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
http://www.rense.com/general69/impeach.htm
May 1st, 2007 at 7:59 am
“Adolph Hitler wasn’t impeached either. And it’s because of people who went along with the B.S.!!!!!”
Excellent point. If we all just sit back and take it, then nothing is going to change. It’s fine and dandy for people like us to scream our heads off about it, but unless someone actually makes an effort and DOES something, then what it it but wasted breath? At least the Dems are making threats, and (seemingly) actually considering doing something. Whether they have the balls to follow through is another story.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:18 am
Gimmebreak, Bill, & John: I love you! Hooray for truth!!
There are many factual reasons to impeach Bush and Cheney. Not that I’m a Nancy fan. But the criminal behavior and deliterilous effect to our country can’t go without consequences!! Our country is certainly feeling the consequences. You can’t go to war just because is good for you personal bottom line or because of your Saudi friends. Bush sent our troops irresponsibly into war like playing army men.
However, as for Murtha, I thinks it’s a stupid political manuever here to try using the impeachment card to “give me what I want.” That does sound childish. And it’s pointless. Just impeach the guy based on all the above mentioned facts listed by Gimmebreak, Bill, and Caroline.
bb and Mike: These are facts. I guess you like being lied to.
May 1st, 2007 at 10:20 am
Bill, et al;
There you go again…comparing an American patriot to Adolph Hitler. If you ever have a slight moment of political clarity in your demented thought process, savor it.
May 1st, 2007 at 11:57 am
So, no rebuttal then?
May 1st, 2007 at 12:05 pm
GimmeaBreak
A strong central government is not the answer unless you have a heavy hand. That is why we must bring in all the regional players and start cutting deals to separate the groups before it spreads!
That is what was recommended in the real CIA report!
We need a real strategy! Surge and Pull out are tacktics not a strategy!
You should read the bipartisan Biden plan.
READ
May 1st, 2007 at 2:43 pm
I don’t want a strong central government. I think our government should be humble enough to obey the will of it’s citizens, and just strong enough to prevent us from collapsing into anarchy. We don’t have that, and haven’t had it in (arguably) over a century and a half.
And pulling out is a strategy. If the goal is to remove the US presence in Iraq and bring our troops home, then pulling them out is exactly the most efficient strategy. It is the method to achieving a specific goal, that’s a strategy. What you mean to say is that pulling our troops out isn’t a strategy for YOUR goals, whatever they may be.
Perhaps we need to reconsider our goals? It seems the major problem here is that the goals our government is so keen on, are unattainable. And so strategy is useless, because you can’t devise a method, no matter how clever you are, to achieve an unattainable goal.
May 1st, 2007 at 2:50 pm
Gimmea
I did not support going in. But it is unrealistic to think we can pull out and Iraq will not be total chaos. And if this gets out of hand it could create total instability in the world due to a regional conflict between the Countries controlling much of the oil.
That is why we must all take a breath and do what is best for us and the world. And that is why so many on both sides agree with the Biden plan.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:44 pm
bb
re: # 24
That hurts man. No actually it sorta tickles. hehe
May 1st, 2007 at 8:50 pm
bb and John, re your posts 2 and 3 respectively, you said:
“On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.”
and
“Bart
That has always been my question.”
Coming from Bart, I’m not surprised - he’s a Neo-con. But John, you really disappoint me. John, pull out the Constitution. The first grounds for impeachment is “Treason”. And if you don’t see that Bush is a Traitor, after all this time, you have no clue. Please stay in the business world and don’t run again for Congress as we need hard core patriots who understand the Constitution and the rule of law, if this nation is to survive. Sorry, John, but that’s my sincere opinion.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:57 pm
And I just read the rest of the thread after responding to two early posts.
GimmeaBreak, you are right. This crowd IS in the Twilight Zone!!!!!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:26 am
bb,
“On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.”
I’m up to four Bill of Rights violations; what’s your count?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 am
“I did not support going in. But it is unrealistic to think we can pull out and Iraq will not be total chaos. And if this gets out of hand it could create total instability in the world due to a regional conflict between the Countries controlling much of the oil.”
I’m sorry if it’s insensitive, I’m not a person who likes to see others suffer, but I really don’t care if Iraq is in chaos. It’s in chaos NOW, and our troops are caught up in that chaos and dying every day. Iraq has been in chaos for centuries, and it will be in chaos for many years to come whether we are present or not. So given that reality, being in chaos in any case, I’d prefer that chaos not claim any more American lives.
It’s time to realize that NOTHING we could have done would have prevented chaos in Iraq and NOTHING we can do will put an end to it. That goal is UNATTAINABLE and it is absolutely futile to continue on the fantasy that we are going to magically stabalize the region and heroically sail away into the sunset. It’s time to give up. There is no end to this.
And I doubt it would cost as far reaching a crisis in the world as you think, regarding oil. Yes they control the oil, but that oil is pretty much also the ONLY thing they control, and the major source of most of those nation’s income. And even then, so what? Are you willing to put a price on American lives? I’d pay $5-6 a gallon for gas if it meant no more American troops would die in this meaningless war.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:29 pm
Lying under oath, specifically the Oath of Office, is treason.
He pledged to uphold the Constitution of the United States, which has been legally amended many times.
By failing to uphold the Constitution and protect the rights of all citizens it shows a reservation at the time he took the Oath.
Treason.
May 3rd, 2007 at 9:08 pm
And no one is doing a thing. What a world we live in.