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	<title>Comments on: Murtha: Dems could impeach</title>
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		<title>By: Gimmebreak</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-36025</link>
		<dc:creator>Gimmebreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And no one is doing a thing. What a world we live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And no one is doing a thing. What a world we live in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35980</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35980</guid>
		<description>Lying under oath, specifically the Oath of Office, is treason.

He pledged to uphold the Constitution of the United States, which has been legally amended many times.

By failing to uphold the Constitution and protect the rights of all citizens it shows a reservation at the time he took the Oath.

Treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lying under oath, specifically the Oath of Office, is treason.</p>
<p>He pledged to uphold the Constitution of the United States, which has been legally amended many times.</p>
<p>By failing to uphold the Constitution and protect the rights of all citizens it shows a reservation at the time he took the Oath.</p>
<p>Treason.</p>
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		<title>By: Gimmebreak</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35887</link>
		<dc:creator>Gimmebreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35887</guid>
		<description>"I did not support going in. But it is unrealistic to think we can pull out and Iraq will not be total chaos. And if this gets out of hand it could create total instability in the world due to a regional conflict between the Countries controlling much of the oil."

I'm sorry if it's insensitive, I'm not a person who likes to see others suffer, but I really don't care if Iraq is in chaos. It's in chaos NOW, and our troops are caught up in that chaos and dying every day. Iraq has been in chaos for centuries, and it will be in chaos for many years to come whether we are present or not. So given that reality, being in chaos in any case, I'd prefer that chaos not claim any more American lives.

It's time to realize that NOTHING we could have done would have prevented chaos in Iraq and NOTHING we can do will put an end to it. That goal is UNATTAINABLE and it is absolutely futile to continue on the fantasy that we are going to magically stabalize the region and heroically sail away into the sunset. It's time to give up. There is no end to this.

And I doubt it would cost as far reaching a crisis in the world as you think, regarding oil. Yes they control the oil, but that oil is pretty much also the ONLY thing they control, and the major source of most of those nation's income. And even then, so what? Are you willing to put a price on American lives? I'd pay $5-6 a gallon for gas if it meant no more American troops would die in this meaningless war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I did not support going in. But it is unrealistic to think we can pull out and Iraq will not be total chaos. And if this gets out of hand it could create total instability in the world due to a regional conflict between the Countries controlling much of the oil.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry if it&#8217;s insensitive, I&#8217;m not a person who likes to see others suffer, but I really don&#8217;t care if Iraq is in chaos. It&#8217;s in chaos NOW, and our troops are caught up in that chaos and dying every day. Iraq has been in chaos for centuries, and it will be in chaos for many years to come whether we are present or not. So given that reality, being in chaos in any case, I&#8217;d prefer that chaos not claim any more American lives.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to realize that NOTHING we could have done would have prevented chaos in Iraq and NOTHING we can do will put an end to it. That goal is UNATTAINABLE and it is absolutely futile to continue on the fantasy that we are going to magically stabalize the region and heroically sail away into the sunset. It&#8217;s time to give up. There is no end to this.</p>
<p>And I doubt it would cost as far reaching a crisis in the world as you think, regarding oil. Yes they control the oil, but that oil is pretty much also the ONLY thing they control, and the major source of most of those nation&#8217;s income. And even then, so what? Are you willing to put a price on American lives? I&#8217;d pay $5-6 a gallon for gas if it meant no more American troops would die in this meaningless war.</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Rear</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35863</link>
		<dc:creator>David O'Rear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 10:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35863</guid>
		<description>bb,

“On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.”


I’m up to four Bill of Rights violations; what’s your count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb,</p>
<p>“On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.”</p>
<p>I’m up to four Bill of Rights violations; what’s your count?</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35846</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 01:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35846</guid>
		<description>And I just read the rest of the thread after responding to two early posts.  

GimmeaBreak, you are right.  This crowd IS in the Twilight Zone!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I just read the rest of the thread after responding to two early posts.  </p>
<p>GimmeaBreak, you are right.  This crowd IS in the Twilight Zone!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35845</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 01:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35845</guid>
		<description>bb and John, re your posts 2 and 3 respectively, you said:
"On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis."

and

"Bart

That has always been my question."

Coming from Bart, I'm not surprised - he's a Neo-con.  But John, you really disappoint me.  John, pull out the Constitution.  The first grounds for impeachment is "Treason".  And if you don't see that Bush is a Traitor, after all this time, you have no clue. Please stay in the business world and don't run again for Congress as we need hard core patriots who understand the Constitution and the rule of law, if this nation is to survive.  Sorry, John, but that's my sincere opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb and John, re your posts 2 and 3 respectively, you said:<br />
&#8220;On what grounds would they file an impeachment? There has to be some legal basis.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;Bart</p>
<p>That has always been my question.&#8221;</p>
<p>Coming from Bart, I&#8217;m not surprised - he&#8217;s a Neo-con.  But John, you really disappoint me.  John, pull out the Constitution.  The first grounds for impeachment is &#8220;Treason&#8221;.  And if you don&#8217;t see that Bush is a Traitor, after all this time, you have no clue. Please stay in the business world and don&#8217;t run again for Congress as we need hard core patriots who understand the Constitution and the rule of law, if this nation is to survive.  Sorry, John, but that&#8217;s my sincere opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35838</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 23:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35838</guid>
		<description>bb
re: # 24
That hurts man.  No actually it sorta tickles.  hehe  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bb<br />
re: # 24<br />
That hurts man.  No actually it sorta tickles.  hehe  <img src='http://controlcongress.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35823</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35823</guid>
		<description>Gimmea

I did not support going in. But it is unrealistic to think we can pull out and Iraq will not be total chaos. And if this gets out of hand it could create total instability in the world due to a regional conflict between the Countries controlling much of the oil.

That is why we must all take a breath and do what is best for us and the world. And that is why so many on both sides agree with the Biden plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gimmea</p>
<p>I did not support going in. But it is unrealistic to think we can pull out and Iraq will not be total chaos. And if this gets out of hand it could create total instability in the world due to a regional conflict between the Countries controlling much of the oil.</p>
<p>That is why we must all take a breath and do what is best for us and the world. And that is why so many on both sides agree with the Biden plan.</p>
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		<title>By: GimmeaBreak</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35820</link>
		<dc:creator>GimmeaBreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35820</guid>
		<description>I don't want a strong central government. I think our government should be humble enough to obey the will of it's citizens, and just strong enough to prevent us from collapsing into anarchy. We don't have that, and haven't had it in (arguably) over a century and a half.

And pulling out is a strategy. If the goal is to remove the US presence in Iraq and bring our troops home, then pulling them out is exactly the most efficient strategy. It is the method to achieving a specific goal, that's a strategy. What you mean to say is that pulling our troops out isn't a strategy for YOUR goals, whatever they may be.

Perhaps we need to reconsider our goals? It seems the major problem here is that the goals our government is so keen on, are unattainable. And so strategy is useless, because you can't devise a method, no matter how clever you are, to achieve an unattainable goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want a strong central government. I think our government should be humble enough to obey the will of it&#8217;s citizens, and just strong enough to prevent us from collapsing into anarchy. We don&#8217;t have that, and haven&#8217;t had it in (arguably) over a century and a half.</p>
<p>And pulling out is a strategy. If the goal is to remove the US presence in Iraq and bring our troops home, then pulling them out is exactly the most efficient strategy. It is the method to achieving a specific goal, that&#8217;s a strategy. What you mean to say is that pulling our troops out isn&#8217;t a strategy for YOUR goals, whatever they may be.</p>
<p>Perhaps we need to reconsider our goals? It seems the major problem here is that the goals our government is so keen on, are unattainable. And so strategy is useless, because you can&#8217;t devise a method, no matter how clever you are, to achieve an unattainable goal.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35814</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 17:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/murtha-dems-could-impeach#comment-35814</guid>
		<description>GimmeaBreak

A strong central government is not the answer unless you have a heavy hand. That is why we must bring in all the regional players and start cutting deals to separate the groups before it spreads!

That is what was recommended in the real CIA report!

We need a real strategy! Surge and Pull out are tacktics not a strategy!

You should read the bipartisan Biden plan.

&lt;a href="http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/why-biden%e2%80%99s-plan-makes-sense" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"&gt;
READ&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GimmeaBreak</p>
<p>A strong central government is not the answer unless you have a heavy hand. That is why we must bring in all the regional players and start cutting deals to separate the groups before it spreads!</p>
<p>That is what was recommended in the real CIA report!</p>
<p>We need a real strategy! Surge and Pull out are tacktics not a strategy!</p>
<p>You should read the bipartisan Biden plan.</p>
<p><a href="http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/why-biden%e2%80%99s-plan-makes-sense" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"><br />
READ</a></p>
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