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Yeah, Bill has moved the goal posts so much over the years that he now sits in the cheap seats.
“It’s hard to tell these days whether the sands shift faster on the Tigris or on the Potomac. Four and a half years ago we invaded Iraq to disarm Saddam, or so we were told. When we found out Saddam had secretly gotten rid of his weapons of mass destruction, the justification for the invasion became to plant the seeds of democracy. Now, with intractable political gridlock in Baghdad, the reason it seems we’re in Iraq is to promote a “tribal awakening” — unite Iraq’s Shia and Sunni tribes in some grand tribal confederation. We’re going to fight terrorism by turning the clock back to 7th century Arabia.”
No public effort to use democracy anymore.
Bill makes some horrible claims such as the surge is working and that al Qaeda has been destroyed or decimated in Iraq.
Bill might want to have his 14 year staffers read him this link. Link
It lists the violence in Iraq over the last 24 hours or so. Bill might need to explain to me as if I were a four year old what the Heck E. Darn he means, the surge has worked.
And, this link as a story on those destroyed or decimated al Qaeda militants in Iraq.
Althought attacks are down in Iraq, we need to look at the real numbers.
“The general said bombs account for more than half the attacks in his area of responsibility, but their number has dropped sharply in recent months from 1,830 in June to 900 in October.”
So if bombs are half the attacks, all attacks would be roughly 1800 per month.
I like how O’Reilly “frames the debate” with his little piece of paper. And always likes to throw partisan politics into the mix. Here’s another guy that likes paper. http://youtube.com/watch?v=biVaXyoyLJE
Two democrats lie, and lie, and lie. It was hard to get the Queensie to say he wants the USA to win. Democrats are liars and traitors and skumbags, all around. The insane demolibs scream terrorism is a bumper sticker. Bin Laden called his terror trainies from 60 nations to descend on Iraq and queenboy quips Al Qaeda wasn’t there before. We might as well talk to mr potatohead, because mr potatohead lies better than the dumbed down morons we now have to call progessives instead of traitorous communist psychotic USA haters, and supporters of the enemy, bin laden.
Bin Laden gave their 2004 election rally speech, and has since then confirmed his demcorat party membership,multiple times. I guess queensie and his libbo armpit of the midwest queenette kookball should just praise bin laden and his michael moore freedom fighters, since of course, that is what they truly, in their dark hate-filled hearts, wish to do, but they cannot openly, just in smiles, and pauses, and lies, it is revealed, nonetheless.
It is absolutely amazing. Those are libs, and their brains, are on permanent, commie zombied drugs.
pssst. Silicon
Actually every person is different. A lot depends on what books you read and what you choose to believe. And thankfully I think more Republicans are getting away from your “insult degrade and accuse” “strategy” for Republican electoral victories in the future. Either you don’t have a clue about “blowback” or you’re well schooled in the art. Hence the “connection” (at the top) between Democrats and Republicans and the “peaceful transition” from Republican elitists over to Democratic elitists. Thanks for nothing bro.
How was O’Reilly “schooled”? Are you saying he is wrong about the surge working John?
From Politico today — “The change in mood perceived by Democratic lawmakers comes as one of Congress’s most vocal war critics, Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), returned from a trip to Iraq and told reporters Thursday that ‘the surge is working’ to improve security…”
You guys should know by now that logic, good sense and factual data won’t be tolerated by the defeatocrats. Here are some facts which I’m certain will be rebuked by those who’re hoping for the demise of the U.S.A. and the defeat of our troops;
1. By ANY measure the surge has been as successful as General Patraeus predicted it would be. I hate to break it to you, but HE was right and YOU were wrong.
2. Now that the loons of the left have been proved wrong, they’ll stop at nothing to convince the electorate they’re still right and the surge has failed.
3. The left WANTS our side to lose. They refuse to admit that a mere 60 or so days into the surge, the results have exceeded even the rosiest of predictions. I know that one stings folks, but facts are facts, even if you don’t like them.
4. ANYONE who thinks the Clinton News Network or the Hillary campaign “knew nothing” about the gay General asking a planted question at the recent debate is only fooling themself. This is the quintessential example of the Clinton slime machine at work.
5. First, the left claimed the reasons we went in to Iraq in the first place were all “lies,” yet virtually all of them supported the action. Next, it was over “big oil,” yet the price of oil is nearly DOUBLE what it was before we went in; now it’s some kind of “nation building exercise” for the president to hang his hat on after he leaves office. Can’t you folks stick to one particular story?
Do any of you left-wing loons realize it took THIRTEEN years to get our own Constitution ratified? Why not give these folks a chance?
Would any of you like to take a crack at answering why Bin Laden and Hot Air Hugo Chavez have thrown their support behind Hillary? Enquiring minds want to know.
The ironic thing about the video is that lady saying she “is not for more violence”…BS! All the dems want more violence, they even attempted to instigate it with the Turkey deal last month.
What will dems run on if/when Iraq is deemed a success? Then they are left with the old mantra of higher taxes, more spending…blah, blah, big nanny govt. blah.
Wow, I guess Silicon Doc represents what the GOP has become. His post shows one of the many reasons that the GOP has been in a steep decline. It’s full of trash talking ignorance. I’m always amazed when the morons talk about how Osama is a Democrat when it’s the Republicans who have allowed him to live large years after he initiated the slaughter of thousands of our citizens. Truly, you guys make it sound like you want to keep Osama around. I’m sure he’ll oblige.
Frankly, if the GOP had a shred of common sense, they would be embarrassed by the fact that Osama’s still out there.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:07 am
LOL!
Yeah, Bill has moved the goal posts so much over the years that he now sits in the cheap seats.
“It’s hard to tell these days whether the sands shift faster on the Tigris or on the Potomac. Four and a half years ago we invaded Iraq to disarm Saddam, or so we were told. When we found out Saddam had secretly gotten rid of his weapons of mass destruction, the justification for the invasion became to plant the seeds of democracy. Now, with intractable political gridlock in Baghdad, the reason it seems we’re in Iraq is to promote a “tribal awakening” — unite Iraq’s Shia and Sunni tribes in some grand tribal confederation. We’re going to fight terrorism by turning the clock back to 7th century Arabia.”
No public effort to use democracy anymore.
Bill makes some horrible claims such as the surge is working and that al Qaeda has been destroyed or decimated in Iraq.
Bill might want to have his 14 year staffers read him this link.
Link
It lists the violence in Iraq over the last 24 hours or so. Bill might need to explain to me as if I were a four year old what the Heck E. Darn he means, the surge has worked.
And, this link as a story on those destroyed or decimated al Qaeda militants in Iraq.
Link=
Althought attacks are down in Iraq, we need to look at the real numbers.
“The general said bombs account for more than half the attacks in his area of responsibility, but their number has dropped sharply in recent months from 1,830 in June to 900 in October.”
So if bombs are half the attacks, all attacks would be roughly 1800 per month.
Link
Does that sound like success, Bill?
November 30th, 2007 at 12:09 am
bad link
Try this
Link
November 30th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Jeez, I threw up a little bit when I heard O’Reilly say the words “honesty” and “noble”.
I need to go use some mouthwash.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:56 am
I like how O’Reilly “frames the debate” with his little piece of paper. And always likes to throw partisan politics into the mix. Here’s another guy that likes paper.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=biVaXyoyLJE
November 30th, 2007 at 7:14 am
Two democrats lie, and lie, and lie. It was hard to get the Queensie to say he wants the USA to win. Democrats are liars and traitors and skumbags, all around. The insane demolibs scream terrorism is a bumper sticker. Bin Laden called his terror trainies from 60 nations to descend on Iraq and queenboy quips Al Qaeda wasn’t there before. We might as well talk to mr potatohead, because mr potatohead lies better than the dumbed down morons we now have to call progessives instead of traitorous communist psychotic USA haters, and supporters of the enemy, bin laden.
Bin Laden gave their 2004 election rally speech, and has since then confirmed his demcorat party membership,multiple times. I guess queensie and his libbo armpit of the midwest queenette kookball should just praise bin laden and his michael moore freedom fighters, since of course, that is what they truly, in their dark hate-filled hearts, wish to do, but they cannot openly, just in smiles, and pauses, and lies, it is revealed, nonetheless.
It is absolutely amazing. Those are libs, and their brains, are on permanent, commie zombied drugs.
November 30th, 2007 at 7:48 am
pssst. Silicon
Actually every person is different. A lot depends on what books you read and what you choose to believe. And thankfully I think more Republicans are getting away from your “insult degrade and accuse” “strategy” for Republican electoral victories in the future. Either you don’t have a clue about “blowback” or you’re well schooled in the art. Hence the “connection” (at the top) between Democrats and Republicans and the “peaceful transition” from Republican elitists over to Democratic elitists. Thanks for nothing bro.
November 30th, 2007 at 10:43 am
How was O’Reilly “schooled”? Are you saying he is wrong about the surge working John?
From Politico today — “The change in mood perceived by Democratic lawmakers comes as one of Congress’s most vocal war critics, Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), returned from a trip to Iraq and told reporters Thursday that ‘the surge is working’ to improve security…”
November 30th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Silicon/Bart
You guys should know by now that logic, good sense and factual data won’t be tolerated by the defeatocrats. Here are some facts which I’m certain will be rebuked by those who’re hoping for the demise of the U.S.A. and the defeat of our troops;
1. By ANY measure the surge has been as successful as General Patraeus predicted it would be. I hate to break it to you, but HE was right and YOU were wrong.
2. Now that the loons of the left have been proved wrong, they’ll stop at nothing to convince the electorate they’re still right and the surge has failed.
3. The left WANTS our side to lose. They refuse to admit that a mere 60 or so days into the surge, the results have exceeded even the rosiest of predictions. I know that one stings folks, but facts are facts, even if you don’t like them.
4. ANYONE who thinks the Clinton News Network or the Hillary campaign “knew nothing” about the gay General asking a planted question at the recent debate is only fooling themself. This is the quintessential example of the Clinton slime machine at work.
5. First, the left claimed the reasons we went in to Iraq in the first place were all “lies,” yet virtually all of them supported the action. Next, it was over “big oil,” yet the price of oil is nearly DOUBLE what it was before we went in; now it’s some kind of “nation building exercise” for the president to hang his hat on after he leaves office. Can’t you folks stick to one particular story?
Do any of you left-wing loons realize it took THIRTEEN years to get our own Constitution ratified? Why not give these folks a chance?
Would any of you like to take a crack at answering why Bin Laden and Hot Air Hugo Chavez have thrown their support behind Hillary? Enquiring minds want to know.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
You are absolutely correct Mac.
The ironic thing about the video is that lady saying she “is not for more violence”…BS! All the dems want more violence, they even attempted to instigate it with the Turkey deal last month.
What will dems run on if/when Iraq is deemed a success? Then they are left with the old mantra of higher taxes, more spending…blah, blah, big nanny govt. blah.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Wow, I guess Silicon Doc represents what the GOP has become. His post shows one of the many reasons that the GOP has been in a steep decline. It’s full of trash talking ignorance. I’m always amazed when the morons talk about how Osama is a Democrat when it’s the Republicans who have allowed him to live large years after he initiated the slaughter of thousands of our citizens. Truly, you guys make it sound like you want to keep Osama around. I’m sure he’ll oblige.
Frankly, if the GOP had a shred of common sense, they would be embarrassed by the fact that Osama’s still out there.
November 30th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Bart & Sgt Mac
What about the government in Iraq?
November 30th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
John,
Please give me time to clean up the vomit from O’Really, bAD bREATH, and X-sgt before asking for more regurgitated BS.
MD
November 30th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
What has happened since the surge?
A continuation of the decline in violence that started before the surge.
What progress has been made on the political front?
Bush et al have abandoned the puppet national government for a policy of ‘awakening’ tribal traditions.
What’s the immediate goal of the ‘existing’ government?
Passing a budget.
When will Irag no longer need 130,000 to 160,000 U.S. troops to suppress street violence?
Bush has no idea. Still no exit strategy.
How much does his weak wristed wanking cost a month?
$10 billion dollars OFF the budget which makes the budget look good while making the debt increase like the Energizer Bunny on Viagra.
How many bomb attacks were there in the ’successful surge month’ of October 2007?
About 900 country wide.
Did the US Congress give the President approval to provide the ‘peace’ in Iraq indefinity using a VISA card?
Did you?
November 30th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
Ops.
That’s $10 billion off the budget PER MONTH…
December 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Big Bird
It’s really pi$$ing you off that it’s working isn’t it? You leftists simply refuse to admit you’re wrong ABOUT ANYTHING.
Get over it.
December 3rd, 2007 at 10:27 am
X-sgt mac,
I was wrong about you being human.
Big Bird
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Big Bird
I was RIGHT about you being a coward