Plame was ‘covert’ agent
Court document indicates Plame was a covert agent. Do you think this should be taken into consideration during Scooter Libby’s sentencing?
MSNBC-WASHINGTON – An unclassified summary of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame’s employment history at the spy agency, disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was “covert” when her name became public in July 2003.
The summary is part of an attachment to Fitzgerald’s memorandum to the court supporting his recommendation that I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Vice President Cheney’s former top aide, spend 2-1/2 to 3 years in prison for obstructing the CIA leak investigation.
The nature of Plame’s CIA employment never came up in Libby’s perjury and obstruction of justice trial.
Naw, Ya don’t saaaay.
‘cus I always thought the C.I.A. came forth with the true status of their operatives from the gitgo. How else are you gonna have a good spy agency? By bending the truth?
I’m not making my mind up about this until I hear what Brit Hume has to say about it.
The MSNBC newly “unclassified” document is actually a Fitzgerald court document of Fitzgerald’s opinion and is not a CIA classified document.
More:
This escapade ought to tell you something about Fitzgerald (partisan hack), about our justice system (unjust) and about Washington politics (dirty/illegal).
Hell yes!
Fitsie is my man!!!
In his blog, “From the Desk of Patrick J. Fitzgerald”, Mr Fitzgerald describes himself as a long-time opponent of corruption, listing among his interests rugby and “prosecuting evil doers”. “I grew up in Flatbush, kept my nose clean, went to law school,” he says.
http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com/
Outing a covert spy during wartime action directed at an enemy? Check.
Treason? Check.
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Thought Libby was not the source that outed her.
He either lied or has a very bad memory, which is what he is being tried for.
Not to mention the fact that many people already new she worked for the CIA before this was published in a paper. Many because her and her husband did not keep this a very big secret.
Maybe the law should go after her husband, who lied about who sent him on the fact finding mission, which started this whole none issue. A none issue unless you want to use it for political reasons to bash and attack another party.
preussow
That is not true. Show me one statemant from anyone that knew she was a covert agent?
David O’Rear,re your post #6
Sit down again. Maybe this is the second time we agree.
Unless I’m misunderstanding your use of the word “check”.
Hugh,
Did this happen? Check.
[yes, it did is the meaning]
You’re starting to scare me . . .
hoads – keep on believing that, since it’s served you so well up to this point…if I took the right-wing seriously at all on something like this, then I’d have to believe that our criminal justice system tried and convicted an innocent man (who wasn’t a poor black guy in the wrong place at the wrong time mind you) who had millionaires backing his legal defense fund and the support of the President of the United States.
I’d have to believe all of that if I were to take you seriously at all.
Wait…I’ll eat an entire sheet of acid and watch as many x-files episodes as I can back to back for about a week, then revisit this.
We have two political parties at war with each other and people like you and me and yes, even people like Libby who take sides in that war, can become casualties.
A spy, even though he might be our spy, when caught by another nation, still gets sent to prison. He was following orders but, still has to suffer if caught.
In our rotten political war, many people are following orders and when caught, sacrificed. Most know going in that is the risk they take.
What is sad is not that Libby was sacrificed but that those who sacrificed him are left free. Whether right or wrong, Libby was a pawn in a war.
I think Rove and the president has engineered many battles in this war that has left a trail of “warriors” sacrificed in it. They believe that if they don’t win, the Democrats, who they think are worse than they are, will win and hurt the nation.
Sadly, the GOP has also sacrificed many of their own principles and goals just to “win.” It would be better to lose by standing on principle and then be there to help the voters pick up the pieces than to be part of the problem by winning.
Al,
Just as much as it takes for me to believe that a representative found with $90,000 bribe money in his freezer is currently a senior member of the House Ways and Means Committee and House Budget Committee.
Plume was not a covert agent.
Libby was not prosecuted for outing a covert agent.
He was found guilty of having a different recollection of a conversation between himself and Tim Russert.
One of the jurors was a former reporter for the Washington Post who worked for Bob Woodward in the mid 1980’s. Until six months ago, he shared an alley with Tim Russert, another witness in the case.
Yes, an innocent man was tried and convicted.
It is the biggest injustice committed in the name of politics in decades.
My links above are based on fact-not some trumped up political rhetoric.
You actually think Libby was a victim? LOL! I guess being in denial is the only way you can stay a conservative these days. According to court papers, Fitzgerald believes that Cheney is the one who committed treason but because Libby wouldn’t tell the truth he couldn’t get to the bottom of the issue.
Anyway, Cheney and Bush will probably spend years defending themselves after they are out of office-
war profiteering
violation of geneva conventions
treason
etc.
you name it, they’ve done it.
caroline,
Richard Armitage was the one who first mentioned Plame had worked as a CIA operative, not Cheney and not Libby.
John,
You said to:
preussow
That is not true. Show me one statemant from anyone that knew she was a covert agent?
Well, isn’t that what the investigation was all about?
Asking people did you know Plame was covert when you told the press?
Pretty much isn’t such a statement. No record of it. But, we don’t have wiretaps on Cheney, yet. Or, Bush. Or, did we on Libby, Armitage, Rove, … and dang… shades of Nixon! some Emails were erased from the server by accident when Rove hit delete.
Man, what a shame.
btw, do I have a comment in moderation??????
MD
I do not get your post. I was making the same point!
John,
No. You were making a very similar point.
Your point was that there is no statement.
My point is that there is no records of such a statement.
I hold open the door.
When an aircraft makes a sonic boom, there’s no record of it as a rule.
Doesn’t mean the boom never happened.
See the diff?
Please check facts! Plame was a desk jockey,husband semi-employed.He says report was sent to Cheney,Blair,etc. I’m sure it is somewhere on my desk too.
Thanks to our “impartial”media!
Thanks, fools.
What else did you lose on your desk?