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	<title>Comments on: Rep. Franks still wants Obama&#8217;s &#8216;long form&#8217; birth certificate</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/rep-franks-still-wants-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate/comment-page-1#comment-139579</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bb
Perhaps you need to re-read Hugh&#039;s original comment #1.  You see, part of the deal with blogers isn&#039;t being worried about what people think or running for office.  It&#039;s partly about informing people.  I&#039;m not sure if you get the distinction.  And frankly if you&#039;re worried about the &quot;numbers&quot; the numbers are always changing, in a general direction towards the truth.  So where does that leave the people who are so worried about what others think?  With this type of logic your own view might be subject to change according to the percentage of Americans take this view.  Not a good barometer for what&#039;s real.</description>
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Perhaps you need to re-read Hugh&#8217;s original comment #1.  You see, part of the deal with blogers isn&#8217;t being worried about what people think or running for office.  It&#8217;s partly about informing people.  I&#8217;m not sure if you get the distinction.  And frankly if you&#8217;re worried about the &#8220;numbers&#8221; the numbers are always changing, in a general direction towards the truth.  So where does that leave the people who are so worried about what others think?  With this type of logic your own view might be subject to change according to the percentage of Americans take this view.  Not a good barometer for what&#8217;s real.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Steve</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/rep-franks-still-wants-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate/comment-page-1#comment-139454</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important update regarding Obama&#039;s Birth Certificate on Leo Donofrio’s site. 

Leo has confirmation that the statements made by Fukino and Okubo re Barack Obama being a &quot;natural-born American citizen&quot; were “reviewed and approved” by the Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett. That makes all of their interactions, and the documents used to make that determination, public record.

Leo’s posting today carefully lays out the case he is pursuing to obtain all information and Hawaiian records for Obama. His conclusion is that Hawaii by law must release everything.

I highly recommend reading it (Part 3) at:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important update regarding Obama&#8217;s Birth Certificate on Leo Donofrio’s site. </p>
<p>Leo has confirmation that the statements made by Fukino and Okubo re Barack Obama being a &#8220;natural-born American citizen&#8221; were “reviewed and approved” by the Hawaii Attorney General Mark Bennett. That makes all of their interactions, and the documents used to make that determination, public record.</p>
<p>Leo’s posting today carefully lays out the case he is pursuing to obtain all information and Hawaiian records for Obama. His conclusion is that Hawaii by law must release everything.</p>
<p>I highly recommend reading it (Part 3) at:</p>
<p><a href="http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/" rel="nofollow">http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/</a></p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Hugh, but you need to get over the Birther crap...just makes you look foolish along with all the rest who waste days on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Hugh, but you need to get over the Birther crap&#8230;just makes you look foolish along with all the rest who waste days on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Rear</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O'Rear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reasons, the only reasons, President Obama doesn&#039;t provide the imaginary &quot;additional&quot; proof (there can be no more proof than a birth certificate) are

(a) no one with an IQ above room temperture expects birthers to be satisfied with anything less than the Word of God Herself; and

(b) if birthers are occupied with this wild goose chase, they won&#039;t be doing as much damage as they might somewhere else.

Hi, &lt;b&gt;Hugh&lt;/b&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reasons, the only reasons, President Obama doesn&#8217;t provide the imaginary &#8220;additional&#8221; proof (there can be no more proof than a birth certificate) are</p>
<p>(a) no one with an IQ above room temperture expects birthers to be satisfied with anything less than the Word of God Herself; and</p>
<p>(b) if birthers are occupied with this wild goose chase, they won&#8217;t be doing as much damage as they might somewhere else.</p>
<p>Hi, <b>Hugh</b>!</p>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
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		<dc:creator>smrstrauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has already proved that he was born in Hawii. He provided his birth certificate, the official birth certificate of Hawaii. (http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html)

Obama put it on his WEB site, and showed the physical document to both Polifact and Factcheck. So, he has shown the physical document.

The document that he has shown is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii. It is accepted by ALL the departments in Hawaii as proof of birth in Hawaii (Yes, including DHHL. I checked, they prefer the original, which some people have, but they accept the Certification as proof of birth in Hawaii) The US State Department and US Military also accept the Certification as proof of birth in Hawaii.

The facts on the Obama birth certificate, that he was born in Hawaii in 1961, were confirmed by the two officials of the Hawaii government who looked into his file. (http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html)

The Wall Street Journal also notes that it is the official document. It said: &quot;Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.&quot;

Many states now issue only short-form birth certificates. They are legal documents, and when they have the raised seal and signature as required by the US State Department, they are accepted by the State Department. (Obama&#039;s physical document has the seal and signature, as shown in FactCheck&#039;s detailed photograph).

This is what the Wall Street Journal concludes: &quot;Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.&quot;

The release of the obsolete birth certificate would not “resolve the issue” to those for whom it is not already resolved. They claim without basis that today’s birth certificate is a fake; there is nothing to stop them from claiming without basis that yesterday’s is as well.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has already proved that he was born in Hawii. He provided his birth certificate, the official birth certificate of Hawaii. (<a href="http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html</a>)</p>
<p>Obama put it on his WEB site, and showed the physical document to both Polifact and Factcheck. So, he has shown the physical document.</p>
<p>The document that he has shown is the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii. It is accepted by ALL the departments in Hawaii as proof of birth in Hawaii (Yes, including DHHL. I checked, they prefer the original, which some people have, but they accept the Certification as proof of birth in Hawaii) The US State Department and US Military also accept the Certification as proof of birth in Hawaii.</p>
<p>The facts on the Obama birth certificate, that he was born in Hawaii in 1961, were confirmed by the two officials of the Hawaii government who looked into his file. (<a href="http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html</a>)</p>
<p>The Wall Street Journal also notes that it is the official document. It said: &#8220;Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many states now issue only short-form birth certificates. They are legal documents, and when they have the raised seal and signature as required by the US State Department, they are accepted by the State Department. (Obama&#8217;s physical document has the seal and signature, as shown in FactCheck&#8217;s detailed photograph).</p>
<p>This is what the Wall Street Journal concludes: &#8220;Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.&#8221;</p>
<p>The release of the obsolete birth certificate would not “resolve the issue” to those for whom it is not already resolved. They claim without basis that today’s birth certificate is a fake; there is nothing to stop them from claiming without basis that yesterday’s is as well.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/rep-franks-still-wants-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate/comment-page-1#comment-139407</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Franks is a fraud...but so are the rest of The Congress.  America&#039;s political class has compromised on the qualifications for the highest office in the land.  Traitors all, in my opinion.  And the ordinary Americans who are aware of this controversy and &quot;looked the other way&quot; so as to be politically correct, or not to rile the establishment,...well, they should hold their heads in shame.  They are a big part of what&#039;s wrong with America!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franks is a fraud&#8230;but so are the rest of The Congress.  America&#8217;s political class has compromised on the qualifications for the highest office in the land.  Traitors all, in my opinion.  And the ordinary Americans who are aware of this controversy and &#8220;looked the other way&#8221; so as to be politically correct, or not to rile the establishment,&#8230;well, they should hold their heads in shame.  They are a big part of what&#8217;s wrong with America!</p>
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