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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-culture-of-the-drunk-migrates-northward/comment-page-1#comment-48515</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey if we just backed off the illegals then they wouldn&#039;t be so scared and have to drink all the time.  And the issue of stats was brought up by one of the other bloggers f.y.i.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey if we just backed off the illegals then they wouldn&#8217;t be so scared and have to drink all the time.  And the issue of stats was brought up by one of the other bloggers f.y.i.</p>
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		<title>By: GA Patriot</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-culture-of-the-drunk-migrates-northward/comment-page-1#comment-48401</link>
		<dc:creator>GA Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Designated drivers are common because people who had delayed gratification, waited until they were educated and employed making enough money BEFORE they had children, and possess PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for themselves and their families are not willing to risk it all in order for a good time bar hopping.

Insofar as the stereotyping, if the shoe fits Cinderfella . . . .

I remember being at Sam&#039;s Club the afternoon of New Year&#039;s eve, and there were massive numbers of Hispanics buying cases of beer piled on hand trucks.  I still remember that scene, especially since a young Sheriff&#039;s deputy was killed by a drunken illegal New Year&#039;s eve (and it was not his first offense).  They were able to identify him and his passenger only by the car he left behind after they ran off and left the deputy to die in a ditch alone.

So, my husband was mowed down by an illegal without a license who also ran away from the scene.  He not only left the car but his wife and baby in it.  Wife?  Age 17, baby age 2.  Insurance does not cover unlicensed drivers.  So we will gladly take your contributions toward the money we had to shell out to repair our fairly new Cadillac if you want to end the stereotyping of the hit and run illegal.  

Intense police presence in Athens - they cut those college kids no breaks.  Have to, they are immature and off on their own for the first time and quickly learn to be responsible.  Or their school and possibly future employment careers are blemished.  They do not get a ticket that they can just ignore - they are citizens, remember?  They have ID&#039;s and valid licenses and can be traced, put in jail, etc.  Illegals get a free pass.  

The one who hit us did not even get a fine for leaving the scene of an accident, only a ticket for following too close and for not having a license, and they were modest at that.  What would happen to me if I tried that in Mexico, even if I was in the country legally as a tourist?

There is a correlation between people who drink and drive and alcohol related crashes.  There is no relation between tying your shoes and the act of bank holdups.  In fact, the Hispanic organizations admit that drinking and driving is part of their culture.  They just didn&#039;t take it to the next level - you know, where the relaxed drunk mows down innocent citizens and then runs away.  They seem to survive the crash to kill again.  

Ask Billy Inman if he agrees with you, or Loren Lilly&#039;s widow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Designated drivers are common because people who had delayed gratification, waited until they were educated and employed making enough money BEFORE they had children, and possess PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for themselves and their families are not willing to risk it all in order for a good time bar hopping.</p>
<p>Insofar as the stereotyping, if the shoe fits Cinderfella . . . .</p>
<p>I remember being at Sam&#8217;s Club the afternoon of New Year&#8217;s eve, and there were massive numbers of Hispanics buying cases of beer piled on hand trucks.  I still remember that scene, especially since a young Sheriff&#8217;s deputy was killed by a drunken illegal New Year&#8217;s eve (and it was not his first offense).  They were able to identify him and his passenger only by the car he left behind after they ran off and left the deputy to die in a ditch alone.</p>
<p>So, my husband was mowed down by an illegal without a license who also ran away from the scene.  He not only left the car but his wife and baby in it.  Wife?  Age 17, baby age 2.  Insurance does not cover unlicensed drivers.  So we will gladly take your contributions toward the money we had to shell out to repair our fairly new Cadillac if you want to end the stereotyping of the hit and run illegal.  </p>
<p>Intense police presence in Athens &#8211; they cut those college kids no breaks.  Have to, they are immature and off on their own for the first time and quickly learn to be responsible.  Or their school and possibly future employment careers are blemished.  They do not get a ticket that they can just ignore &#8211; they are citizens, remember?  They have ID&#8217;s and valid licenses and can be traced, put in jail, etc.  Illegals get a free pass.  </p>
<p>The one who hit us did not even get a fine for leaving the scene of an accident, only a ticket for following too close and for not having a license, and they were modest at that.  What would happen to me if I tried that in Mexico, even if I was in the country legally as a tourist?</p>
<p>There is a correlation between people who drink and drive and alcohol related crashes.  There is no relation between tying your shoes and the act of bank holdups.  In fact, the Hispanic organizations admit that drinking and driving is part of their culture.  They just didn&#8217;t take it to the next level &#8211; you know, where the relaxed drunk mows down innocent citizens and then runs away.  They seem to survive the crash to kill again.  </p>
<p>Ask Billy Inman if he agrees with you, or Loren Lilly&#8217;s widow.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene's Rock-N-Roll Show</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-culture-of-the-drunk-migrates-northward/comment-page-1#comment-48395</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene's Rock-N-Roll Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ga pat, I&#039;m glad  for you &amp; yer son.

The fact of the matter is though,  you all wanna stereotype folks.

Lemme ax you: &lt;b&gt;&quot;Athens has an intense police presence&quot;&lt;/b&gt; because of wha???

&lt;b&gt;&quot;we have designated drivers &quot;&lt;/b&gt; because of wha???


so instead of saying we have forced people to adapt our drinking culture as to not cause public harm. . . you would rather make it seem as though Hispanics  are drunks and can&#039;t ammend their ways.

THEN you further attach that stereotype to the seperate problem of illegals.

If I rob banks AND can&#039;t tie my shoes, should you warn all the children that if they don&#039;t learn to tie their shoes, they will wind up as bank robbers.



Gene out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ga pat, I&#8217;m glad  for you &amp; yer son.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is though,  you all wanna stereotype folks.</p>
<p>Lemme ax you: <b>&#8220;Athens has an intense police presence&#8221;</b> because of wha???</p>
<p><b>&#8220;we have designated drivers &#8220;</b> because of wha???</p>
<p>so instead of saying we have forced people to adapt our drinking culture as to not cause public harm. . . you would rather make it seem as though Hispanics  are drunks and can&#8217;t ammend their ways.</p>
<p>THEN you further attach that stereotype to the seperate problem of illegals.</p>
<p>If I rob banks AND can&#8217;t tie my shoes, should you warn all the children that if they don&#8217;t learn to tie their shoes, they will wind up as bank robbers.</p>
<p>Gene out</p>
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		<title>By: GA Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>GA Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene,

Have you never heard of the concept of a designated driver?  That is the reason why citizens have a much lower incidence of drunken driving.  And Athens has an intense police presence, and the college kids party in their rooms/doors/apartments and stay the night so they leave sober.  Have first hand experience - my son graduated from UGA with a clean driving record and a degree.

I have also been to Mexico, it was a lawless country in the 70&#039;s and remains so.  No big surprise when Mexican nationals sneak in that they continue to break other laws - stealing social security numbers, claiming dependents who do not exist, drunken driving, leaving the scene of an accident, spousal abuse, child sexual abuse, and aiding and abetting drug and people smuggling if not directly participating in these.

And, Mad Dog, the gang MS 13 originated in El Salvador, brought here by illegals and flourishes with their anchor babies.  Drinking and driving are not the U.S. cultural norms, just the leftist Hollywood types.  As far as the gangs and domestic violence, mainly perpetuated by the poor in slums.  Which is why we should not be importing poverty from third world countries.  Maybe there are gangs in the Hamptons and Palm Beach I have not heard about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene,</p>
<p>Have you never heard of the concept of a designated driver?  That is the reason why citizens have a much lower incidence of drunken driving.  And Athens has an intense police presence, and the college kids party in their rooms/doors/apartments and stay the night so they leave sober.  Have first hand experience &#8211; my son graduated from UGA with a clean driving record and a degree.</p>
<p>I have also been to Mexico, it was a lawless country in the 70&#8217;s and remains so.  No big surprise when Mexican nationals sneak in that they continue to break other laws &#8211; stealing social security numbers, claiming dependents who do not exist, drunken driving, leaving the scene of an accident, spousal abuse, child sexual abuse, and aiding and abetting drug and people smuggling if not directly participating in these.</p>
<p>And, Mad Dog, the gang MS 13 originated in El Salvador, brought here by illegals and flourishes with their anchor babies.  Drinking and driving are not the U.S. cultural norms, just the leftist Hollywood types.  As far as the gangs and domestic violence, mainly perpetuated by the poor in slums.  Which is why we should not be importing poverty from third world countries.  Maybe there are gangs in the Hamptons and Palm Beach I have not heard about?</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-culture-of-the-drunk-migrates-northward/comment-page-1#comment-48390</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

When the immigrants finally start to adapt to U.S. cultural norms, like drinking and driving, gangs, and domestic violence who are the people most offended?

MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>When the immigrants finally start to adapt to U.S. cultural norms, like drinking and driving, gangs, and domestic violence who are the people most offended?</p>
<p>MD</p>
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		<title>By: David O'Rear</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O'Rear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That mote in hoads&#039; eye is making it difficult for him to see the road...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That mote in hoads&#8217; eye is making it difficult for him to see the road&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hoads</title>
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		<dc:creator>hoads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let&#039;s continue our crackdown on drunk driving AND deport any illegal caught drunk driving.  Why should we allow illegals to contribute to our problem?  If you want to come here and work then stay under the radar and follow the rules.  If you&#039;re incapable of doing that, you don&#039;t belong here because you are a &quot;guest&quot; in this country and should be more than willing to follow our rules.  Those that break the law are a menace and a burden to our justice system not to mention a danger on our roads that contributes to American deaths that might not have occurred if you, the illegal alien, had not broken the law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let&#8217;s continue our crackdown on drunk driving AND deport any illegal caught drunk driving.  Why should we allow illegals to contribute to our problem?  If you want to come here and work then stay under the radar and follow the rules.  If you&#8217;re incapable of doing that, you don&#8217;t belong here because you are a &#8220;guest&#8221; in this country and should be more than willing to follow our rules.  Those that break the law are a menace and a burden to our justice system not to mention a danger on our roads that contributes to American deaths that might not have occurred if you, the illegal alien, had not broken the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene's Rock-N-Roll Show</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene's Rock-N-Roll Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS.
Darvin, Dagwood, DEVO, what ever the hell it is. . . .

in about two weeks, go to Athens or the li&#039;l ol North Ave. school, and witness all the teetotaling going on.


Gene out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS.<br />
Darvin, Dagwood, DEVO, what ever the hell it is. . . .</p>
<p>in about two weeks, go to Athens or the li&#8217;l ol North Ave. school, and witness all the teetotaling going on.</p>
<p>Gene out</p>
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		<title>By: Gene's Rock-N-Roll Show</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-culture-of-the-drunk-migrates-northward/comment-page-1#comment-48368</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene's Rock-N-Roll Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!!!!
drinking culture eh?

apparently you havent been to &lt;b&gt;ANY&lt;/b&gt; Frat, tailgating, bowling, wedding recption, or any other gathering of . . . .us&#039;m plain ol&#039; American men.

you debase a valid argument with jingoistic and generally abhorrent post.


&quot;the horror, the horror&quot;!!

Gene out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!!!<br />
drinking culture eh?</p>
<p>apparently you havent been to <b>ANY</b> Frat, tailgating, bowling, wedding recption, or any other gathering of . . . .us&#8217;m plain ol&#8217; American men.</p>
<p>you debase a valid argument with jingoistic and generally abhorrent post.</p>
<p>&#8220;the horror, the horror&#8221;!!</p>
<p>Gene out</p>
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		<title>By: GA Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>GA Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, the pro-illegal groups realize that Latinos have a serious problem as well as acceptance of drunk driving.  Why else would the ethnocentric groups publish this type of material?  Only, they are only concerned with the death of the drunks:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-04-10-hispanic-dui_N.htm


&quot;Nationally, motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for Hispanics age 1-34 but only the eighth leading cause for Americans overall, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Other federal data show that 47% of Hispanic crash deaths are alcohol-related, compared with 40% for the general population.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, the pro-illegal groups realize that Latinos have a serious problem as well as acceptance of drunk driving.  Why else would the ethnocentric groups publish this type of material?  Only, they are only concerned with the death of the drunks:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-04-10-hispanic-dui_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-04-10-hispanic-dui_N.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Nationally, motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for Hispanics age 1-34 but only the eighth leading cause for Americans overall, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Other federal data show that 47% of Hispanic crash deaths are alcohol-related, compared with 40% for the general population.&#8221;</p>
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