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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-other-iraq-surge/comment-page-1#comment-50932</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bart

If you add what Paul got and Dems got in donation the number is low!</description>
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<p>If you add what Paul got and Dems got in donation the number is low!</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-other-iraq-surge/comment-page-1#comment-50907</link>
		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John...are you out there.  You put forth phony numbers about real soldiers even send it out in a mass email despite full knowledge that it is a lie...defend yourself John or even better, admit you misstated the numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John&#8230;are you out there.  You put forth phony numbers about real soldiers even send it out in a mass email despite full knowledge that it is a lie&#8230;defend yourself John or even better, admit you misstated the numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-other-iraq-surge/comment-page-1#comment-50849</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a reason I mention voluntary reporting of occupation.

Having reviewed hundreds of pages of campaign disclosures, then matching occupations to the listed occupations, the GOP candidates are a joke at reporting occupations.

Lowell Stacy &quot;Casey&quot; Cagle was busted by the weak knee&#039;d Georgia Ethics Commission for NOT reporting the occupations of his contributors. 

Now, in general, people give money without saying, &quot;Oh, by the way, I sit on the Board of Directors of your bank, Casey. So list my occupation as Retired or Businessman. Just don&#039;t let people know you and I helped start a bank together so you won&#039;t be seen a having a conflict of interest while on the Banking Committee.&quot;

Ask &quot;Casey&quot; how truthful and accurate he thinks his donors are about their &#039;occupation.&#039;

Also, the data was mined from contributions of $200 or more. 

I understand for federal reporting there isn&#039;t a lower break out point. 

But, and I&#039;m not all that sure, BUT even Aubrey&#039;s fake soldier would have to swallow deep before throwing away $200 in one chunk, eh?

Just some thoughts at large on  how poorly campaign finance usually works for the GOP.

MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a reason I mention voluntary reporting of occupation.</p>
<p>Having reviewed hundreds of pages of campaign disclosures, then matching occupations to the listed occupations, the GOP candidates are a joke at reporting occupations.</p>
<p>Lowell Stacy &#8220;Casey&#8221; Cagle was busted by the weak knee&#8217;d Georgia Ethics Commission for NOT reporting the occupations of his contributors. </p>
<p>Now, in general, people give money without saying, &#8220;Oh, by the way, I sit on the Board of Directors of your bank, Casey. So list my occupation as Retired or Businessman. Just don&#8217;t let people know you and I helped start a bank together so you won&#8217;t be seen a having a conflict of interest while on the Banking Committee.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ask &#8220;Casey&#8221; how truthful and accurate he thinks his donors are about their &#8216;occupation.&#8217;</p>
<p>Also, the data was mined from contributions of $200 or more. </p>
<p>I understand for federal reporting there isn&#8217;t a lower break out point. </p>
<p>But, and I&#8217;m not all that sure, BUT even Aubrey&#8217;s fake soldier would have to swallow deep before throwing away $200 in one chunk, eh?</p>
<p>Just some thoughts at large on  how poorly campaign finance usually works for the GOP.</p>
<p>MD</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Not agreeing with the pack as usual.

But, since Bush isn&#039;t collecting a war chest, I would find it hard to make a hard dollar to hard dollar comparison. 

Plus, how do we know &#039;soldiers&#039; are making the donations?

Occupation as voluntarily reported by donor?

I do see a huge difference in party to party fund raising in this cycle. 

Bush in 2000, primary and general elections, did very, very well as a fundraiser in general.  

Fundraising alone can&#039;t WIN the election, but early fundraising and in large amounts can dry up the field in a primary where the donor list is more limited than a general election. 

And, we have the lesson of Mr. Whitehouse in the Georgia 10th, don&#039;t we? That fundraising isn&#039;t everything?

Still, very interesting to think about and research further.

MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Not agreeing with the pack as usual.</p>
<p>But, since Bush isn&#8217;t collecting a war chest, I would find it hard to make a hard dollar to hard dollar comparison. </p>
<p>Plus, how do we know &#8217;soldiers&#8217; are making the donations?</p>
<p>Occupation as voluntarily reported by donor?</p>
<p>I do see a huge difference in party to party fund raising in this cycle. </p>
<p>Bush in 2000, primary and general elections, did very, very well as a fundraiser in general.  </p>
<p>Fundraising alone can&#8217;t WIN the election, but early fundraising and in large amounts can dry up the field in a primary where the donor list is more limited than a general election. </p>
<p>And, we have the lesson of Mr. Whitehouse in the Georgia 10th, don&#8217;t we? That fundraising isn&#8217;t everything?</p>
<p>Still, very interesting to think about and research further.</p>
<p>MD</p>
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		<title>By: littlehouse36</title>
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		<dc:creator>littlehouse36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 22:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:  Real soldiers are ones who serve on a mission and tell the truth about it.  &quot;Phony soldiers&quot; are ones who do not serve, lie about it and say they did. 

I don&#039;t blame our troops for wanting to get out of Iraq.  They kick ass, work like dogs in 110 degree heat and have to listen to phony soldiers spread global lies about them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:  Real soldiers are ones who serve on a mission and tell the truth about it.  &#8220;Phony soldiers&#8221; are ones who do not serve, lie about it and say they did. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame our troops for wanting to get out of Iraq.  They kick ass, work like dogs in 110 degree heat and have to listen to phony soldiers spread global lies about them.</p>
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		<title>By: News Hound</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Hound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - for Pete&#039;s sake let it go! How often do you need to hear you&#039;re wrong?

Do you continue posting this tripe to be funny? The votes are in John and YOU LOST!

News Hound</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; for Pete&#8217;s sake let it go! How often do you need to hear you&#8217;re wrong?</p>
<p>Do you continue posting this tripe to be funny? The votes are in John and YOU LOST!</p>
<p>News Hound</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are flat wrong on this one.  Based on recent surveys an overwhelming number of soldiers are conservative or adhere to conservative ideals.  In fact an overwhelming majority of those serving in the military say they will opt out at the first opportunity should a Democrat be elected president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are flat wrong on this one.  Based on recent surveys an overwhelming number of soldiers are conservative or adhere to conservative ideals.  In fact an overwhelming majority of those serving in the military say they will opt out at the first opportunity should a Democrat be elected president.</p>
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		<title>By: bb</title>
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		<dc:creator>bb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a BS thread.

IF (big if) this is reliable data, then only 40% (so far this year, &lt;strong&gt;40 percent&lt;/strong&gt; of military money has gone to Democrats for Congress and president, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.

Geez John, why do you blatantly falsify data?  Are you being advised by James Carville and forehead Begalla?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a BS thread.</p>
<p>IF (big if) this is reliable data, then only 40% (so far this year, <strong>40 percent</strong> of military money has gone to Democrats for Congress and president, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics.</p>
<p>Geez John, why do you blatantly falsify data?  Are you being advised by James Carville and forehead Begalla?</p>
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		<title>By: Aubrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aubrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;60% of the troops via campaign donations do not support Bush’s Iraq war strategy? Do the Rush supporters think 60% of the military should leave the military since you think they are not REAL SOLDIERS? And what is a REAL SOLDIER vs. a non- REAL SOLDIER?&quot;


I didn&#039;t see this anywhere in the article.  If I missed it, I appologize.  Either way, &quot;phony soldiers&quot; is the proper nonmenclature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;60% of the troops via campaign donations do not support Bush’s Iraq war strategy? Do the Rush supporters think 60% of the military should leave the military since you think they are not REAL SOLDIERS? And what is a REAL SOLDIER vs. a non- REAL SOLDIER?&#8221;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t see this anywhere in the article.  If I missed it, I appologize.  Either way, &#8220;phony soldiers&#8221; is the proper nonmenclature.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnKonop</title>
		<link>http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/the-other-iraq-surge/comment-page-1#comment-50758</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnKonop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 12:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aubrey

Is was from the article you can see it if you hit the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aubrey</p>
<p>Is was from the article you can see it if you hit the link.</p>
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